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The mods there have decided to allow underage looking content, skirting close to CP. Unless we want such disgusting stuff on our feed, I think we should defederate from that instance.

Pinging @ernest as well.

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[–] Otome-chan@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

just out of interest. in this pic, how old do you think hayase looks?

Drawn characters can look like anything, so trying to discern an age out of a drawing is silly. Hayase is an adult loli. Characters younger than her would look different. For reference here she is in context with other characters. notably a typical adult male, and a child. You can see she's very obviously not a child once placed in context. When looking at the lineup, she does indeed "appear younger than the others". The thing about loli characters is that they're like tofu, they change and appear different depending on the context. Hayase looks super young in the lineup, but then in context she appears older and clearly an adult (or maybe later teen).

So what would be your stance of sexualised images of that character or a similar one?

On characters like hayase my stance is it's understandable why one might ban due to potential legal implications. However, she's an adult, does not appear as a child in context, is not presented as a child, and is a drawing, and should not be legal as per societal laws. Personally I'm not sexually attracted to loli characters (as stated elsewhere my preference is clearly older-looking adults in 30yo range).

See, thet problem is, all your justifications come from within your lolita community. Not from outside the community, which is ultimately who you are judged by when this shit comes into thte public sphere..

The question isn't "do you find loli offputting" it's "do you think this should be illegal". and if I had to say whether it should be illegal my answer is no. There is a lot of nsfw content that I think is offputting, disgusting, AND should be illegal. Yet I do not see others complaining about it, nor do I think people would end up agreeing. For example, bestiality is illegal IRL. yet many people draw bestiality nsfw images. should those similarly be banned? do you think that warrants defederation, and criminality? over a drawing? Yet furries are very common.

Until it becomes public and you suddenly expect people to accept your justifications.

tbh, other peoples' morality is not really something I care for. to me, most people are morally corrupt and despicable. look at every single person who voted joe biden, a known rapist, pedophile, and war criminal. and then those people have the audacity to judge me because I said a drawing harms no one? really?

[–] Inamin@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago

You can see she's very obviously not a child once placed in context.

err.... are we looking at the same picture?

The question isn't "do you find loli offputting" it's "do you think this should be illegal"

no the question is "Is the sexualised depiction of children illegal in your jurisdiction". To which the answer is yes, yes it very much so is. You can argue semantics till she's 762. To the average person, that is very much so a depiction of a child despite whatever some lore states on a twitter image. and if that is getting sexualised, and you think that is ok, then the moral corruption is within you. Its just that you can't see that from within.

lmao, a paedo calling people who voted for Biden morally corrupt, the fucking irony.