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[–] Yendor@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It’s weird seeing American “libertarians”. In Australia, the Liberal Democrat Party were the first to support same sex marriage and drug decriminalisation (even before the far-left Greens) and have long supported peoples right to decide for themselves on euthanasia and abortion. They’ve been the only voice against the governments overreach on internet filtering and their power to secretly force companies to write backdoors into their software. So basically the opposite of American “libertarians”.

After winning some seats about 8-10 years ago, the major parties realised they could marginalise the LDP on issues like gun control, which most Australians know nothing about but support with blind enthusiasm anyway. So we’re back to the stats-quo of 4 parties, Lib/Nat vs Labor/Greens.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Libertarianism in the US is all about personal liberty, basically about being able to do whatever they want and fuck anyone else's needs or desires.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So they're just Republicans by a different name then

[–] III@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

A libertarian is just a republican who knows that admitting who they align with is socially dangerous. You would think that makes them better in some way but in fact it makes them worse. Many republicans don't know they are absolute garbage. Libertarians know they are garbage but still choose to be garbage.

[–] Zorque@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Nah, if you don't directly bother them they mostly just don't give a fuck. True-red republicans find pleasure in fucking over other people in new and disgusting ways.

It's a minor difference, but it's important to libertarians. Because it's the one way they try and distance themselves from other conservatives.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Similar thing with the Lib Dems here in the UK. More socially progressive than Labour, and in theory "centrist" on economics but were also arguably more progressive than even Corbyns Labour. Then as soon as they won a decent amount of seats both the right and left wing media dragged them through the mud to stop them being a threat to the 2 party system that theve invested tons of money into controlling.

[–] jodanlime@midwest.social 0 points 1 year ago

American libertarians will say they support things like gay rights and drug decriminalization but they will never actually vote in a way that creates change. They will vote for the Republican that claims to want small government but does nothing to further that ideology. Even if that politician is actively fighting against other causes that libertarians claim to give a damn about.