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Was reminded how Epstien not killing himself was/is so accepted yet it’s still a conspiracy theory. Is there any similar ones you guys believe to be completely true ?

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[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That trump is carefully placed and chosen distraction. He was allowed to run as republican so that they could use him as a screen to hide their real plans.

I can't honestly say I really believe it, not when the rest of it is thrown in, but that part I kinda, sorta think has merit.

The rest of the crazy is that he's not only a plant, but that the ties to Russia, the convenient invasion of Ukraine, and the sudden leap to the proxy war going on their now (rather than when Russia first started fucking around there years ago) is all part of a plan by the military industrial complex to rise to cold war era riches again, with a long laundry list of companies like Halliburton.

This is not a conspiracy theory I've seen on the internet (not yet anyway). It's one I've heard floating around at the shooting range I use that's lgbtq+ friendly. Which only matters because that's why I never expected to hear a conspiracy theory there of all places. I mean, a shooting range that's almost exclusively used by people a bit further left than Bernie Sanders and the local pink pistols group, and a local lgbtq+ shooting group unaffiliated with the pink pistols.

Like, people don't even discuss politics other than gun politics there usually. But the last three or four times I've been this year, there's a little clique that's been talking about it. I know them, and the is the first I've ever heard them get into this kind of thinking.

But that's the least bullshit "conspiracy" that I've heard that wasn't more of just a secret. Like, mk ultra shit where it isn't really a conspiracy, it was classified, and there's a difference between them.

[–] potterpockets@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 year ago

Kinda related to this, but we know prior to the 2016 Russia hacked the DNC emails and only really released info about them talking shit on/working against Bernie (potentially the most damaging info/most helpful to get Trump elected).

We also know that they hacked the RNC, but didnt release any info from it. And we also know the NRA was receiving Russian funds and then donating to Trump and other Republicans.

So it isnt far fetched to believe that between the carrot of campaign donations and the stick of leaking sensitive RNC emails Russia was attempting to force the RNC to force a potential Russian asset in power to cripple/break up NATO to continue Russia’s expansion into Western Europe, the Middle East, and North Africa.

Imagine the lack of support given the invasion of Ukraine if Trump were president. If anything Trump would jump on recognizing the gains as Russian territory.

[–] NoIWontPickaName@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I honestly believed trump was a democrat plant to guarantee Hillary one.

They're going to reveal the whole trump presidency was fake any minute now.

Right guys? Please?

[–] jantin@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It could make sense when compared to Brexit. The brexit referendum was supposed to be a 4D chess move from less insane Tories to shut down the new populist party and more radical conservatives. Instead we got shady meddling, "leave" won and they were actually forced to do it and shoot their both feet with a cannon.

Maybe the established powers in the US wanted to use Trump to channel extremism into him and have him lose to get rid of the sentiments. Instead some shady meddling happened etc.

[–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Instead some shady meddling happened etc.

russia?

[–] Alto@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

I maintain that his initial announcement of his candidacy was more a publicity stunt than anything else.

Then he realized he could actually win

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

That would have been hilarious. Or hillaryious, I guess.

Sure as hell, nobody I knew (even the die hard republicans) thought he had a chance in hell at the time.