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[–] sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

4-10s is common in heavy industry. Same number of hours, but you get a lot more weekend and weekends with stats are even better.

I've worked such a work week, and would heartily endorse it.

[–] spacebirb@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Idk why someone always brings up 4-10s every time, it's a completely different thing. We want 8 hour days, 4 days a week.

[–] sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because it's a thing that actually exists, doesn't result in a pay or benefits cut, and people who experienced it actually like.

[–] kite@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Not everyone. I hated it. A lot of times, 4 10s is actually 4 11s, because they make you take a lunch but you still gotta get those 10 actual work hours in. After a while, it was just brutal and exhausting. Bonus points of suck are awarded if you have to deal with coworkers who think you're just getting a freebie day off for nothing and turn into assholes.

[–] sushibowl@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

As someone working in IT, this sounds horrible for productivity. I can barely remain productive for a full eight hours, longer days would exacerbate the problem.

Probably better to have 5-6 for me. Almost the same as 4-8 but you cut only the least productive hours so it's more efficient.

[–] ElectroVagrant@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tbh having a set amount of work hours across jobs comes across as unwise. Each job is going to have different sorts of demands and the length of work sessions & number of breaks should be adjusted accordingly for each.

For some jobs a longer work session with sufficient breaks may prove better, whereas other jobs, absolutely not, it becomes performative rather than productive.

[–] Deftdrummer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Exactly. Try telling a firefighter working a Kelly schedule they now have to work 5 8 hr days with weekends off.

You will no longer have firefighters. How every job being different is lost on people I know not. Probably all the tech bros thinking their experience is the norm.

[–] Samanthastanky@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Agree. 8 hours is a struggle. You get 5 hours of serious focused attention from me...then I lose steam and half heartedly answer questions and fight to keep my eyes open and focused or zone out in a meeting. But the 5 hours I do is laps around my coworkers and solid friggin work. Also to note I work remote and it's the only reason my 5 hours is so fruitful.

10 hours would be a nightmare.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

That's why it's perfect. Just screw around for the extra hours and you get another day that isn't tainted with work stank. Just having work that day ruins the day for me. 4x8 is ideal, but I'd settle for 4x10.