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Foundation vs Dune (media.kbin.social)
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[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But that is less the spice and more the prescience. The prescience that failed Paul. Leto II seemed to be clear for the golden path not from the self fullfilling lock-in that prescience created, but from his ability to mediate the other voices he incurred from the spice agony. Something the Bene Gesserit thought only women to be capeable off, but never managed to put to the effect like Leto II could.

Also Leto II was the tyrant and very explicit about his choice of tyranny as the mean to create the golden path, so certainly not a salvation from imperial nonsense.

So i'd say the spice to be crucial in fullfilling many purposes, but it was never the path to salvation itself and it created many more problems along the way.

[–] ThreeHalflings@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The spice is the source of the prescience, I don't think you can draw a line between them (the Tleilaxu could, but even then I think they used what they called synthetic spice, I don't really recall that very well though).

Aside for that point, yep, I agree with pretty much everything you said!

Unless I'm missing something?

[–] tryptaminev@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You are not missing something and i agree with your points. I was happy to discuss dune with you, as i get the chance way to seldom. Thank you :)

[–] treefrog@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Without spice they can't fold space either, meaning the empire would collapse without it.

[–] ThreeHalflings@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Have a good day :)