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[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I think you think Jewish people are all pro-Israel which is ignorant at best. Bigotry at worst.

Again the data proved this. These were polls of voters in general, not pro-Palestinians. American Jews were absolutely represented by the polls.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 57 minutes ago) (1 children)

I think you think Jewish people are all pro-Israel which is ignorant at best. Bigotry at worst.

Oh look another straw man. Like it's their only move.... No, I do not think that. I don't believe I've said anything to imply that I do.

But I do know how much money and power that lobby throws around, and I've seen it destroy political careers overnight. The ADL would have tanked Harris' campaign had she come out in support of Palestine prior to Election Day. Like I don't think you people understand just how complex the political calculus here is... And you can sit on your high horse and say, "people shouldn't be doing political calculus when genocide is ongoing," and that's certainly a solid point, but the reality is that they do and that they have to if they want to have a chance of winning.

In fact, a day or two before Election Day, she seemed to have signaled that she would be tougher on Israel, but it was too little, too late. I suspect she waited until the last moment so as to not give the Israel lobby enough time to kill her campaign.

I believe that Harris would have listened to Palestinian voices had she won (rather than putting them in camps)

[–] spujb@lemmy.cafe 1 points 56 minutes ago

This better explains your position than your previous comment. Thank you and I do apologize for any mischaracterization.