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[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

taken from multiple versions of android

They're the newest releases of Google's own AOSP apps. If you don't like the apps and the fact that they aren't maintained anymore, complain to Google. They are the ones who fail to provide up-to-date apps in AOSP, because they want to promote they proprietary, spyware-infested garbage. It's not like you have to use them, you can easily disable all the pre-installed apps, and either replace them with the proprietary Google apps (and disable network access to maintain privacy), or get open source alternatives, for example from Fossify.

There’s no preinstalled apps store

There is a pre-installed app store, which lets you install Graphene's own apps, Google Play Store and services, as well as the Accrescent app store. For everything else, you can grab an APK from the web. My recommendation is to use Obtainium, it easily lets you download, install and update APKs from various sources on the web. There's also an extensive list with presets for apps to download via Obtainium: https://apps.obtainium.imranr.dev/

The security is remarkable but I feel they could give other areas more care.

They don't want to include any unnecessary bloat, so they leave the OS very minimalistic on purpose. You can install whatever you like, and you don't have to deal with removing bloat you don't need.

No contactless payment is really tough too

Some banks offer their own NFC payment system that doesn't require Google Pay and just uses the bank's app. Again, complain to your bank if they only offer mobile payments via Google Pay.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

If you don't like the apps and the fact that they aren't maintained anymore, complain to Google.

They don't have to use AOSP apps that haven't been maintained in years. They take part of the blame for that. They're the ones who decided to include it in their ROM.

There is a pre-installed app store

Yes, with 3 apps. That's not really an app store, is it?

They don't even recommended any app store other than the Play Store, which you have to jump through some hoops to enable.

Digging through their social media posts, they say their recommendation is to download and update each of your apps by downloading it from each developer directly. That is bad UX.

You listing obscure app stores that they don't preinstall and actually seem to advise against is not proof that they care for UX.

They don't want to include any unnecessary bloat, so they leave the OS very minimalistic on purpose.

I understand that. That's fine. I was complaining about the lack of attention to UX. Replacing the alarm clock app with a modern one, for example, isn't bloat, but it is good for UX.

You're completely ignoring my entire point: the fundamentals are decent but the UX seemingly gets zero attention, which I find unfortunate. Your comment backs me up, even, because it talks of convoluted steps to improve the experience that the devs either don't speak of, or actively discourage.

Not everyone likes to spend 5 hours tinkering on their phone and looking through vague guides to have it work normally.