The EU should stand united against the US right now. Not because it's okay for them to own Greenland, but because the people of Greenland are more threatened by the US right now and the EU may be the only effective deterrence from an invasion.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 12 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

How exactly do you envision the EU being an effective deterrence against the US exactly? The EU is completely dependent on the US militarily, and now that EU won't trade with Russia, it's also dependent on the US for energy. The US has the EU bent over a barrel at this point.

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

The EU would have ally itself with China. It is a difficult choice, you have a fascist oligarchy who funded Israel's genocide on one hand (US) vs a communist country that built 40000km of HSR, countless solar panels, the most affordable electric cars in the world, and now a ton of nuclear power plants. I can't tell which country is worse 🙃

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 hours ago

You'd think this would be an easy one, but here we are.

[–] vfreire85@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

they'll choose the u.s., because (who rules them are) white.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 4 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Military dependency is not everything.. there are other things, where USA is dependent on Europe.

But, I guess right now, nobody can tell what is going to happen next…

[–] rando895@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 6 hours ago

Absolutely right.

Refusing to trade, voting against them at every opportunity, forcing the removal of American bases from European soil, refusing travel by Americans, I'm sure there's more. I'm just a rando on my couch. What do I know.

[–] Samsuma@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

there are other things, where USA is dependent on Europe.

Please elaborate.. Last I checked, other than imposing imperial interests for the US' behalf, I can't recollect a single concrete thing that the US needs the EU for.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

So, there is ASML (only company that makes lithography fur sub 4nm chips), pharma industry (many Europe companies/universities RnD are essential for that industry), science as whole is very strong in EU.

Additionally, many trade routes are managed from EU / switzerland. And big investments ate taken by European entities.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Who do you think has more leverage in this relationship, and what stops the US from simply poaching the talent from Europe as the economy there collapses?

[–] ViaFedi@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Imagine thinking you can 'simply poach' the talent from Europe. The US is far from the only country skilled migrants choose, and it's looking less and less attractive to be a resident by the day.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago

If the economic situation in Europe continues to deteriorate then people with the means to do so will leave. They might not all go to the US, but that's not gonna be a small consolation to Europe. The only other real alternative is China because nobody else is funding this kind of research and technology development right now.