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I mean that's how it's usually observed, but not how it's determined. Those sex organs get there somehow. The general rule is that if you have a heightened level of androgens and nothing preventing you from responding to them at a certain point in fetal development then you develop male sex organs, if not you develop female sex organs. Barring some other medical disorder, those heightened androgens that masculinize the fetus are triggered by the action of the SRY gene on a Y chromosome.
If you include absolutely everything, yeah. But someone with Klinefelter's is in terms of sexual function male (if less fertile), someone with XXX is in the same way female, XX people with CAIS are in the same way female, etc. Cases where there's ambiguity in sexual function are much more rare.
But really all this is like making the argument that gloves shouldn't come in pairs with five fingers per glove because rarely people are born with syndactyly, polydactyly, etc. Like the definition Trump uses is stupid and wrong (not least because no one is producing gametes at conception) and it's at least even odds it makes him non-male since at his age he's probably shooting blanks, but to pretend that sex in humans doesn't come in two categories and an assortment of rare conditions in which something went wrong genetically or developmentally is kinda silly.
Your Gloves comparison is pretty flawed, though.
We don't require everyone to wear a pair of gloves at all times. We don't put glove data on legal forms, we don't use gloves to classify a critical element of our sense of self. We don't make changing your glove type illegal, costly, or incredibly difficult. We don't make getting 4 or 6 finger gloves illegal. We don't force people with 6 fingers to get one chopped off. We don't exclude people who are missing a hand entirely from society. We don't publicly demonize people with 4 fingers.
Yes, the proportion of people impacted is small, but the impact to those people is not. We can't just call it "Good enough" because it works for 99% of the population when the 1% it definitely doesn't work for is being absolutely ruined by it, especially if the exceptions that serve that small population are being systematically eliminated so that their existence is either suffering or criminality.