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Should I work with Marxist-Leninists?
If you're organising at work or around housing issues, the people you work with are not going to all have the same politics at you, and your opinions on the July 1918 uprising of Left Socialist Revolutionaries after their expulsion from the Bolshevik government are not relevant to that situation. Yes, really, no-one gives a shit. You're relating to each other as workers in that situation, not as representatives of a political niche, at least we hope not.
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If there are real political and organisational disagreements, it's better to be open about them than gloss over them, and retain some independence.
tankie colloquially refers to communists who deluded themselves into thinking authoritarianism can breed anything other than opression and that to give power to the people, you first got to take it away from the people.
its not impossible to work with tankies on low stake joined causes but with their usually hierarchical and authoritarian organising structures (that they even try to spread) they still make for shitty partners.
their idelology is misguided and harmful. i hope they all eventually learn and become anarchists. power to the people
That is probably the most on point description.
Tankies are fascists. You can argue all you want for pro-lgbt and anti-racist action. Community actions. This is individuals.
What rises through the ranks is fascists. And they want those fascists. Because fascists promise an utopia at the end.
And this is who fascists elect.
A former roommate of mine had a hysterical emotional breakdown, and spent the following 2 months convincing everyone we both knew that I was mentally unstable to the point of needing to be institutionalized...
... because I laughed in his face when he described Hu Jintao being very publically arrested at a mass televised CCP conference... as 'being put into witness protection due to a threat on his life'.
...
You see, the problem with Tankies is that they're astoundingly insecure, extremely manipulative, and fully believe in any means justifying their ends.
Tankie roommates: Not even once.
While I do genuinely feel sorry that this roommate of yours behaved in such awful and shitty way, my point was about the larger communities as a whole. Especially now that there are openly fascist people in power in the US and in a lot of other countries, I believe it's even more important to be united. Or at least, as I quoted before, know where the differences lie.
That doesn't mean being supportive of wrong behaviors and/or people of course. Being critical of wrongdoing is an essential skill. But in my opinion one can't be as critical when generalizing about such large groups
I'll continue to trust Tankies as much as the historical record indicates Anarchists should.
Which is 0, less than 0, some negative amount.
If you know of any historical revolutionary movements involving a distinct and significant amount of Anarchists that did not include Tankies betraying and/or murdering all their Anarchist 'allies', please let me know.
EDIT: Here, I can 'read more theory, noob' too
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ziq-tankies-and-the-left-unity-scam
I may not be an Anarchist, but i’m sure saving that link. Thanks.