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Chris Hayes: Biden is leaving a ‘disgraceful legacy’ on Gaza (www.yahoo.com)
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[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

everyone left in Palestine

how so? the Pope spoke against the genocide. putting Palestinian Catholics aside. Explain.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Relatively few Palestinians are Catholic. Muslims are not going to a Catholic heaven.

Source is Reuters, which is acceptable, I assume? Data is from 2007, but as it was shrinking back then, and since Israel has been purging Palestine of Palestinians fairly indiscriminatorily, and since Christians are unpopular in Israel to begun with, there's little reason to expect the IDF to be bothering to check the religion of the people they're murdering or spare Christians even if they did.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Muslims are not going to a Catholic heaven.

If the faithless and atheists can go to heaven why not Muslims? Muslims if anything at least believe in the Virgin Birth and Second Coming of Jesus Christ even if they don't believe in the Crucifixion and Trinity.

Of course among Muslims and Christians you will find those who believe only their tightly knit group is going to heaven and everyone else is going to hell.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 1 points 21 hours ago

I'm not sure Pope Francis is the most Catholic of Catholic popes. I'm certain many previous popes would have excommunicated him by now.

I guess it boils down to:

  1. Does the current pope dictate God's actions? Especially when the current pope's dictates differ so radically from the pope two generations ago?
  2. Is the Catholic God that mercurial? A few centuries ago, you'd be tortured into confessing to atheism and then burnt on a stake, but now it's A-Okay and you can go to heaven as long as you had good intentions?

I'm sure there's a 3 and 4, but honestly I feel like there would be some Benedictine and Jesuit monks in here debating the finer points.

The Pope is God's voice in Earth; that's the dogma, I guess. But it's hard to reconcile the messages of Francis and Paul VI.