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[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 10 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

No, Biden has a duty to protect the constitution, so letting the fascists take over is a dereliction of duty.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 7 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Explain precisely what you want him to do. Should he refuse to hand over power in "defense of the constitution"? Be specific.

[–] gubblebumbum@lemm.ee 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

you can invade, stage coups and meddle in other countries to bring or protect "democracy" then why not your own?

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca -1 points 47 minutes ago (1 children)

Let's try this again. Explain precisely what you want Biden to do. He specific. Rhetorical questions don't count.

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 2 points 27 minutes ago (1 children)

I'll tell you want I want him to do. Nothing. I want him to retire from politics. I want him to admit guilt that he never put up a fight and never intended to. I want him to be ashamed about the direction he lead the country in. I want him to denounce his stake in the DNC and encourage his peers to do the same.

What is happening now is a major failing of both parties. If they so desperately want to be the only two horses that get to race then they take responsibility for every other horse they've essentially knee capped.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 2 points 21 minutes ago

I’ll tell you want I want him to do. Nothing. I want him to retire from politics. I want him to admit guilt that he never put up a fight and never intended to. I want him to be ashamed about the direction he lead the country in. I want him to denounce his stake in the DNC and encourage his peers to do the same.

I would only quibble that what you've suggested is not 'nothing'. It's not a lot, but it's far more than Biden (or Harris) has ever done, or are ever likely to do. If either of them did what you suggest, they'd have my respect for the first time.

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 33 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

It's a fine line to tread. Biden and Harris have a Constitutional duty to step aside on January 20, and let Trump and Vance take over, but there's no duty to acquiesce so quietly and cooperatively. They could be leading pro-civil rights rallies and delivering speeches on national TV, but of course, if they did they wouldn't be Biden and Harris.

We invision leaders who have moral fortitude, believe in justice, want to make the world better, and have a plan to do so.

What we actually have are people who showed up, people who sold out, people who can navigate petty social interactions, and people who cling to power because it's their ticket to an easy life.

Never should anyone be surprised when they let us down. It's all theatre and the few who might fit the bill get isolated and rejected because they threaten the rests existence.