this post was submitted on 10 Jan 2025
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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

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Vegans being banned and comments being deleted from !vegan@lemmy.world for being fake vegans.

From my perspective, the comments were in no way insulting and just part of completely normal interaction. If this decision reflects the general opinion of the mod team, then from my perspective, the biggest vegan community on Lemmy wants to be an elitist cycle of hardcore vegans only, not allowing any slightly different opinion. Which would be very unfortunate.

PS: In contrast to the name of this community, I don't want to insult anyone here being a 'bastard'. I just want to post this somewhere on neutral ground. I would really appreciate an open discussion without bashing anyone.

PPS: Some instances or clients seem to compress the screenshots in a way they're unreadable. Find the full resolution here: https://imgur.com/a/8XdexTm

Linking the affected users and mods: @Cypher@lemmy.world @gaael@lemmy.world @gredo@lemmy.world @iiGxC@slrpnk.net @veganpizza69@lemmy.world @veganpizza69@lemmy.vg @jerkface@lemmy.ca @TheTechnician27@lemmy.world @Sunshine@lemmy.ca @Aqua@lemmy.vg

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[–] Arcanepotato@vegantheoryclub.org 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

So, last time people were mad that vegans were mean to them this community got created:

https://lemmy.world/c/plantbased

Edit: I should finish my coffee before posting, the only post there literally points to this more active com lol: https://lemmy.world/c/plantbased@lemmy.dbzer0.com

See: https://lemmy.world/post/23634881

We all know r/vegan exists and is a cesspit of carnists, but there doesn't seem to be an actual demand for a 'plant based' space. I'm not sure why people would post about something they are kind of meh and not committed to?

If people are interested in just the food, there are communities for that:

I really don't think the rules there are onerous. Just don't talk about abusing animals and don't be a jerk to the other posters and you're good?

[–] ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Hey, I didn’t make plantbased to be a less committed version to veganism. I made it because from reddit to lemmy every vegan community I’ve encountered has power tripping toxic mods and I wanted to provide an alternative space.

I’m fully committed to my veganism. But I also wanted people who aren’t to be able to discuss it without being attacked.

After I wrote this I see you’re writing from a vegan instance. I have less experience with there versus vegan communities around here.

[–] fartsparkles@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

The hardcore/toxic crowd do nothing except alienate and turn people against the cause and make people think being vegan means being surrounded by assholes.

It’s people like you that welcome everyone into the discussion that inspire more people to try it out; you’re bringing about the real change.

[–] ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago

That’s so extremely nice of you to say :)

[–] NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lol, every vegan I know which includes a chunk of my own family went vegan because of militant vegans.

I see lots of carnists with no intention of going vegan talk about how militant vegans are bad but I have never actually met someone who is vegan and stays vegan that found wishy washy people motivating or inspiring.

[–] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago

You can be committed and firm on your issue without being a raging asshole about it at the same time. Most of the vegan communities I've come across don't even talk about being vegan, it's just finding more ways to shit on non vegans.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm not even a vegetarian but I am slowly trending y'all's direction. Finding good recipes or product recommendations is key to getting my family to come along with me.

I appreciate being, if not welcomed, at least quietly tolerated!

[–] ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I view that as a net positive :) trying to force people to change in one moment will never succeed.

You’re more than welcome! I view it as a space to learn and explore, not to be judged by what level vegan you are lol

The only thing I’ve moderated recently is people pushing meat in the community or being rude.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

pushing meat

Tee hee

[–] NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

vegantheoryclub has both a home cooking (beware the rules re recipes), and a recipes community. There is also a discord linked with lots of pinned and extremely yummy recipes.

You are absolutely welcome to have a look, and you will not run into moderation issues unless you promote carnism. For example: wow that looks great, I'm going to have it with lamb" is as welcome as pissing in someone's face, but asking for recommendations, tips, or suggestions is completely fine.

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

I'll take a look, thanks.

I should clarify: when I refer to people who aren't committed to veganism I am referring to the same people you are referring to when you say "people who aren't", i.e. the non vegans discussing veganism.

[–] Plum@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm apparently banned from vegan theory club. I have no idea what I could have done to them.

[–] neurospice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lemmy world is a blocked instance on vegan theory club. @Arcanepotato@vegantheoryclub.org won't be able to see your comment.

[–] Plum@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wow. Thats... their choice, I guess. All hail the fediverse.

[–] toomanypancakes@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They got sick of trolls invading and demanding to be debated, and lemmy.world was one of the most egregious instances. I can't blame them, vegans deserve a place to just be without every discussion turning into a debate with non-vegans.

[–] Plum@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fair. Nobody deserves to get brigaded for living quietly and authentically.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com -1 points 1 week ago

Nobody deserves to get brigaded for living quietly and authentically.

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