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[–] JustAnIdiotPlsIgnore@lemmy.world 19 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (3 children)

Look I get it, the Dems didn't do enough to win over their base and instead went to the center.

But these Dearborn folks in the article get what they deserve and should really shut the fuck up. They voted for a man who said he would extend his Muslim country travel ban to gaza and still thought somehow he was on their side.

You are a complete a total dumbass if you thought he was on your side. He has years and years of lying out of his ass and you believed him and it's the Democrats fault? No I reject that. He literally stated in 2023 that he would extend his travel ban to Gaza. I feel like I need to take crazy pills or something, these people are insufferable.

[–] bravesilvernest@lemmy.ml 15 points 19 hours ago

The article states that some of them just wanted a candidate to acknowledge them, which trump did. Regardless of how he's actually going to implement policies, he did a bare minimum for them, which reflects in the results.

No other real editorializing needed, unfortunately.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

You are a complete a total dumbass if you thought he was on your side.

No one in the dem party thinks trump was on their side in any way. But they also thought Biden/Harris was a rabid dog that it was important for the parties future to put down (rhetorically). Nobody owes fascism or fascism-lite a vote, and I demand better from dems if they want to continue to exist as a party at all. Centrist leaders are not kings who get to make choices like aiding terrorism and murder, and then walk away without accountability.

Not only was no one in the centrist camp doing anything for the peace vote (the anti genocide side), by shipping weapons the centrists were actively and violently acting against the human rights side and the law. Did you think you were siding with neutrality? The DNC has not been neutral in this at all. They are abetting genocide and terrorism, and violating numerous US laws and the geneva convention.

Besides the muslim vote, the youth and progressive votes were heavily influenced by this issue, and their votes were right there for the taking. The Republicans were always going to be violent and corrupt, but people had higher expectations for Dems, so Dems taking those AIPAC bribes had consequences. This seems obvious to so many but you just refuse to see that you're siding with the baddies, not some sort of neutral crowd you could make better someday.

And do you somehow feel powerful calling people dumbasses? Its against the TOS here and you lost along with the rest of us. Its pathetic that even in utter failure you are all mouth and contrived nonsense that your side has clean hands and was trying to do the right thing.

[–] Fades@lemmy.world -1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

It’s hilarious how you talk about how simple and easy it all is when you quite clearly have no idea what you’re talking about.

Everything you listed, the Republicans are guilty of by a far larger margin. The difference is that dems were talking about two state solutions while Trump quite literally was telling Bibi to turn Gaza into a goddamn parking lot. (And that’s just the most obvious clue you’re saying nothing of value lol)

I especially enjoyed you attempting to mount your high horse after this piss-poor attack by mentioning the break in TOS when the OP is talking in general and is not attacking a single person. It’s okay to say “people who think x, or do y are dumb”.

If anything, you’re the one breaking TOS:

  • Do not engage in name callingad hominem attacks, or any other uncivil behaviour. Criticize ideas, never people.

You using the threat of TOS can be seen as ad hominem as a way to delegitimize the comment you replied to.