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[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world -5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Incel ≠ misogynist. Incel means involuntary celibate. We need more people to learn about this and stop equating those two terms

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Incel refers to guys that turned misogynist because they're involuntarily celibate.

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Yes. You don't get to redefine a word just because you don't like it. Incel does and always did mean that.

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Oh please. Using Wikipedia as a source while knowing entries are provided by individuals. Here's all of Wiktionary's definitions of the word:

A member of an online subculture of people (mostly men) who define themselves as unable to find a romantic or sexual partner despite desiring one.

(rare) An individual who is not sexually active despite having such a desire.

(uncountable, seduction community, informal) "Involuntary celibacy": the state of being not sexually active despite wishing to be.

Incel is not a gendered word. Even females can be incels.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Did you somehow miss the 239 references saying you're wrong?

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Clearly you're the one who lacks reading skills if you didn't see that 1). The involuntary celibacy project was started by a woman, and 2). It was initially meant for lonely people struggling to find love. Any other meaning attached to the term is a matter of stereotype.

This is like saying feminism = misandrist because a lot of people that identify with the term hate men. Cmon man, do better.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Careful there, you're gonna run out of straw. The woman who started the project also denounced it because it became a breeding ground for bitter, virgin men resentful of women that turned their anger into misogyny. You really don't seem to know how language works. Grow up.

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

🤦

You haven't even disagreed with my point. Denouncing it doesn't change the original intent of the incel movement. If you go back and read the definitions i provided, it is clear that women can be incels as well, so saying it's a misogynistic group is oxymoronic. Like i said, it would be akin writing off feminism as misandrism because many feminists hate men.

It's about the origins of the term and not what it has come to be associated with.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Women can be misogynistic, you absolute muppet. I don't need to disagree with your point because you don't have one, you just don't understand how language works.

[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

you just don't understand how language works.

Ironic considering my username. I guess we'll agree to disagree 🤝

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)