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Liberals saying they support unions and strikes, and then complaining about strikes interrupting commerce and shipping for their own entitled reasons is such a liberal thing to do. They don’t seem to realize that they’re falling for the propaganda traps that are present to try to prevent further support for unionization.
Edit: lol I’ve angered the liberal hive mind. It might be time for some of y’all to read up on the characteristics of classical liberalism and maybe Combat Liberalism instead of feeling attacked and proving my point.
Are "they" in the room with us right now?
Creating imaginary enemies is how the conservative cope with their worsening life
That is such a [redacted] thing to do
Russian collision says what?
Leave some straw for the rest of us.
I can edit too:
Okay so we're talking about the difference between "All squares are rectangles" and "Not all rectangles are squares."
What you initially said, and what I offered a "conservative/Nazi" counterpoint to, is "Rectangles doing square things is such a rectangle thing to do," when most rectangles are not squares.
This is the epitome of a straw man argument.
It’s not a strawman if you’ve actually witnessed it. Those types of ultralibs aren’t well liked even in liberal circles, and they are a rarity. But seeing them crop up and contort themselves into pretzels is amusing.
No, no, no. You don't get to pretend that what you originally said was something else entirely.
Your first comment was a blanket statement. Your second comment tried to walk that back into a very specific statement. Those are two entirely different things, and your pretending they aren't instead of admitting you were wrong in the first case is telling.
I mean… that is a very liberal thing to do. I wasn’t saying every liberal is like that. I’m saying that kind of behavior falls in line with liberalism.
So is it "liberals" doing "such a liberal thing to do" or only what "ultralibs" who "are a rarity" do?
Those are different. You're talking out of both sides of your mouth.
They’re both liberals. Everything I’ve said still applies.
Conservatives marching down the street carrying Nazi flags is such a conservative thing to do then, yes?
Not all conservatives are Nazis, but chances are pretty high based on history that all Nazis are conservatives.
So would you say that the statement "Conservatives marching down the street carrying Nazi flags is such a conservative thing to do" is substantially true or substantially false?
Maybe a better distinction would be "accurate or misleading".
If a 100% of Nazis are historically conservative or conservative-adjacent, it is a conservative thing to do. That’s not stating all conservatives are automatically Nazis. In this case though, I’d probably just say it’s a very Nazi thing to do.
Okay so we're talking about the difference between "All squares are rectangles" and "Not all rectangles are squares."
What you initially said, and what I offered a "conservative/Nazi" counterpoint to, is "Rectangles doing square things is such a rectangle thing to do," when most rectangles are not squares.
This is the epitome of a straw man argument.
getting into a logical argument over a ~~figure of speech~~ idomatic expression is such a lemmy thing to do~~
Not a figure of speech. It's the difference between substantially accurate and propaganda.
Thanks for the correction!
Getting upset over a minor critique of the status quo-upholding elements within liberalism is, ironically, a very liberal thing to do.
I love that you snarked your way into understanding what they were saying
Well. That’s one way to announce you don’t know any liberals. None of the ones I know are worried about getting late packages due to these strikes, but then most all of them try to support non-shitty businesses anyway.
Or maybe you just can’t lump everyone together in neat little groups.
"My liberal friends aren't like this, therefore no liberals are"
You understand the person they were replying to used their own anecdotal observation to characterize liberals in general, right? They were providing counterexamples.
Some liberals are just more pedantic than others. Most of them are not like that and any time I see them crop up in chats I’m part of, they get scolded by basically everyone. They are the rare ultralibs that have a high level of entitlement.