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Not sure if this is the correct place to post, but I just wanna kinda rant a bit.

I'm not the only one that hates this, right?

An app can just do a "This App Does Not Allow Screenshots"? Like... wtf?

Like, its my phone, and some app can just decide to disable a fuction of my phone. It's my phone and if I wanna take a screenshot, I'm taking a screenshot. I don't care about whatever "security" the app developer wants.

Imagine if every online shopping app whether fast food or amazon, just used this to block you from taking a screenshot so you can't save the records in case of a dispute.

Which android developer thought it was a good idea to let an app disable a function on your phone. Even iPhone doesn't have this stupid concept.

Sorry for the rant.

Anyone wanna share your stories?

(P.S. I have a cheap secondary phone to take photos of the screen. "This App Does Not Allow Screenshots" my ass lmao, I'm taking the screenshot whether the app wants it or not.

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[–] Bezier@suppo.fi 50 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

The point of many of android's "protection" features isn't to protect the user from apps, but to protect apps from the user. I hate it.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 39 points 6 hours ago (5 children)

In this case, I think it's protecting apps from other apps. No secret screen recording going on while you're looking at bank statements, etc. I find that annoying, too, but I'm less annoyed by the reasoning in this case.

Now if Google could explain why toggling wifi through Tasker requires root, I would LOVE to hear the reasoning...

[–] FrameXX@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

In this case, I think it's protecting apps from other apps. No secret screen recording going on while you're looking at bank statements, etc.

I think with all the engineers at Google developing Android they could come up with a solution of how to discern whether the act of screenshot was triggered solely by the user, or an app on the phone. They are the ones in power of all the APIs that allow other apps to capture the screen content in the first place. Maybe I am simplifying it too much, but this seems as a bad excuse to me.

Maybe it would be too hard of a solution since there's so many ways third party apps could capture screen content (including for example the Android accessibility service which also allows apps to read content of the screen and even simulate screen touches and gestures which many automation apps make use of) that blocking the screenshot alltogether is by far the most feasible solution.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

For me and my family, I think the best solution would be to leave it as-is but with a way to lift the restrictions for power users that doesn't involve root access. Something akin to enabling developer mode without having to buy a specific rootable phone

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

There is already a solution:

Third-party apps, unless a user specifically go to settings and find that option, don’t have the permission known as “Draw Over Top” that’s required to do screen recordings/screenshots.

So by default, a user is already safe from a malicious app trying to steal info. (That is, unless they just be an idiot and give the app "Draw Over Top" permission)

[–] Pieisawesome@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Some password managers want draw over top.

Bitwarden required it, iirc

Well you are gonna be trusting the password manager anyways, since its literally storing all your passwords. If you trust Bitwarden to store all your passwords, then you can trust it to not abuse the "Draw Over Top" permission.

[–] DynamoSunshirtSandals@possumpat.io 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Or changing or just adding a system font.

Or setting a charge capacity limit.

Or adding separate quick access tikes for wifi and cellular.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The first two don't bug me but dam, give me my 6 buttons back!! I hate these fat notification tray icons. And yes, fuck Google for making it take MORE clicks to toggle wifi/cellular than before.

[–] Spectrism@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago

Unless they changed something in Android 15, which I haven't been able to try yet, I don't think the separate WiFi / Mobile Data tiles were ever removed. At least they still exist on LineageOS 21 (Android 14), just hidden in the tile editor. You might want to check if you still have them there.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

They changed it the other day where airplane mode doesn’t require root. That one’s nice for me.

Never mind that shortcuts on iOS has been able to do that simple task from its inception.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

When did airplane mode ever require root?

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Up until Android 14 I think. Android 13 for sure does not support it.

Unless an ADB trick counts https://tasker.joaoapps.com/userguide/en/help/ah_secure_setting_grant.html

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

You used to be able to do everything I wanted through tasker without root but Google has been stripping away functionality for years

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Third-party apps, unless a user specifically go to settings and find that option, don't have the permission known as "Draw Over Top" that's required to do screen recordings/screenshots.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Fair enough, though experience with my unsavvy family makes me think a lot of people will do whatever an app tells them to do

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Ok but why is my browser doing this in incognito mode? Incognito mode isn't a banking app. It's me not wanting my browser to save my Facebook login info or history.

[–] kn33@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

The target use case for incognito mode is to prevent the device from saving your activity during the browsing session through things like cookies and history. To that end, incognito also blocks it to prevent other apps from saving your activity through screen recordings or screenshots.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Being able to block screenshots is "supposed" to protect users from having malware take screenshots of banking apps and other such information.

If app developers were good, this could have been a good feature.

But I agree with OP. It still should be the user's choice.

[–] Klajan@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 hours ago

My Banking App does have the option to disable this feature.

It's all fine if it's a user choice, very annoying if it's not.

"Protections" are fine, as long as there's an override for it.

User doesn't like potential malware from "sideloading"? Then don't enable "Install from Unknown Sources".

Same thing with everything else, there should be an override switch.