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A post from 2 months ago which explained the context: https://lemmy.world/post/20694710

I just had a look, nothing has changed, the website is still using Lemmy's content to pretend to be active

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 2 points 1 day ago (5 children)

sure. its pretty simple... dont put out a product that cannot participate fully. there are many unfinished platforms, but they dont scrape the fediverse content because, ya know, theyre unfinished.

as soon as you get full federation implemented (or even basic linkbacks to the original content), youre welcome to let everyone know so they stop blocking your scraping mechanism.

until then your unfinished product will likely be blocked.

[–] vinay_clubsall@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Thanks for this. My worry is that other admins have different set of rules. Someone said clubsall should be open sourced, someone said clubsall should be self hostable, another person said, it should attribute posts and have canonical links. Unfortunately the admins do not seem to have common agreed set of rules that are fair. So no matter what we do, it seems we will be blocked. Can we have a viable alternative?

There was a discussion about having a common set of rules which had proposal which is different than yours. So I am requesting some breathing room exception based on traffic, so we can survive until we can develop more or there is a common set of rules agreed to. Would that be fair?

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

i would say youre running before you can walk.

you have an unfinished product, and you say youre in no hurry.. then why do you insist on scraping the fediverse?

finish your product, or dont. if you cant, there are plenty of open source platforms you could implement today. but youre not. why not?

if you insist on building a new wheel, finish it already or stop asking why people dont want to interact with you.

[–] vinay_clubsall@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The issue is that definition of "finish" varies person to person. This is why I am asking for a common set of fair rules we can agree on, so we can finish.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

im tellin ya. make a product that participates and attributes the content back to its source, or dont bother. those are your options.

as it is you are monetizing other sites content with no attribution.

[–] vinay_clubsall@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Sorry allow me to ask 2 followup questions. 1 Can you explain how do you see us monetizing? 2. For attribution, currently you can see which user made the post. Should I display the server name on the sidebar?

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