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[–] Lemister@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As long as american troops and cia sites are plastered throughout the country they never will. Besides the country has been going downhill since the 90s when they embraced eternal austerity and neoliberalism.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I say once more: austerity is important. debts always have to be paid back. otherwise you're throwing future generation under a bus. why would they suffer so?

[–] RedDawn@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

No, debts don’t always have to be paid back and that’s not the way things have typically worked throughout most of human history actually. Insisting all debts be paid back regardless of the cost to society is a concept even newer than capitalism itself, so a handful of generations. Austerity fucks over everybody, especially the future generations.

[–] vovchik_ilich@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago

austerity is important. debts always have to be paid back

The European Central Bank can literally create at a keystroke the Euros that most European countries are indebted in. EU countries incurring in debt is a consequence of the arbitrary 3% deficit limit imposed during the previous century, which was decided in a 5-h meeting by a set of politicians who didn't understand economics, based on a study that has since been disproven (there were errors in the excel sheets used for the calculations of the article). Austerity is consistently harmful and monetarily unnecessary, especially when denominated in the country's own currency (as is the case of most developed countries).