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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Working class rebel vs Elite class looking for more control

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago

This is your brain on a lack of class analysis

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What the heck is an "elite class?" Where did Marx talk about it?

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world -2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Believe it or not, things can exist independently of Marx having described them.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago

So which non-Marxist political economy or sociology defines this elite class? Usually class politics is attributed to Marx

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago

When everyone is using Class in a specific manner, the addition of a "class" that doesn't actually exist just for a quip is really odd. You have to make the argument that it even exists in the first place first.

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Please show your work. What is the proof that it was done for more control?

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca -4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Are you asking for proof of Occupied China being a planned economy or that the party controls it?

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

The comment I replied to says:

Working class rebel vs Elite class looking for more control

Notice the part highlighted in bold. I am asking for proof of this. In other words, proof that the Chinese government executed CEOs only because they sought "more control". Surely we are not expected to blindly trust this claim, right?

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Surely we are not expected to blindly trust this claim

Why not? They did when the CIA told it [to the journalists that repeated it] to them.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca -3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So it’s planned economy that you’re disputing

I really can’t think of any proof that you would believe if you’re disputing that

[–] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

So it’s planned economy that you’re disputing

No.

My question is very clear, why can't you address it without pretending I asked something else?

Again, you made the claim that CEO executions were made for the reason of seeking more control. Please provide proof that they were done for this reason and not any other reason. I have not asked for planned economy proof or anything else.

If your next comment does not answer my question, then you are being intentionally misleading

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

If it’s a planned economy then the government controls it

You’re just saying the same thing

[–] Grapho@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 weeks ago

How do you twist yourself up in knots to not even get in the general vicinity of an evidence-based position and not wonder "damn, do I really not know shit about the stuff I'm so loud about "?