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[–] TheLastHero@hexbear.net 61 points 4 days ago (4 children)

good luck with that. China will stick them into a blender if they even try, as they should.

[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 57 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Their goal is to create chaos in the Central Asian corridor, which is a main pillar of the Belt and Road Initiative. The empire’s strategy is to create chaos through terrorism to make the Eurasian economic cooperation prohibitively expensive.

[–] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 24 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

unsurprisingly communist analysis predicted this exact scenario many years ago

Often when I listened to prominent academics giving their takes and recollecting history, I thought to myself 'god damn, they're knowledgable' - because it would take me a long time to read up, and understand the conflicts they were speaking of and be able to talk about it.

What I hadn't realised up until recently, is that if you keep up with the news for years on these issues, you too end up with this knowledge bank. These academics didn't necessarily go back and read all the history books - they lived through them in real time, and each day learnt and applied communist perspectives in the face of propaganda.

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Similarly, the Marxists of this community repeatedly educated me but being more correct and predictive about things than everyone else until I read more theory and caught up.

It is called the immortal science for a reason

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 54 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I know they're usually very measured about these things, but they need to erase these guys like they erased the cia proxy force parachuted into Tibet.

[–] TheLastHero@hexbear.net 39 points 4 days ago (2 children)

they'll erase themselves if they even bother showing up. While they've been off pillaging in Syria for a decade the Chinese government has lifted the standard of living in Xinjiang and tamped down on Uyghur separatism. Typically a would be independence movement needs to, you know, be active in the land and among the people they are purporting to represent.

If these guys think they'll receive a hero's welcome from the locals they'll be sorely mistaken, and the US isn't around in Afghanistan to funnel them support anymore. Hilariously their old friends in the Taliban will probably sell them out to China now for a few drops of aid money. It will look like some bay of pigs shit if they try to return in force. I doubt they will even try to leave Syria

[–] Gucci_Minh@hexbear.net 42 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah the PLA mopped up the Tibetan CIA assets quick because they could not hide. Imagine being a typical liberated Tibetan serf seeing some lama failson trying to bring back slavery. Yeah it's reporting time.

[–] Hexamerous@hexbear.net 4 points 3 days ago

Imagine being a typical liberated Tibetan serf seeing some lama failson trying to bring back slavery. Yeah it's reporting time.

Reminded me of this gem from Parentis "Friendly feudalism"

Many Tibetan commandos and agents whom the CIA dropped into the country were chiefs of aristocratic clans or the sons of chiefs. Ninety percent of them were never heard from again, according to a report from the CIA itself ...

che-smile

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 20 points 4 days ago

They have a ceiling support of 45% (the percentage of Uyghurs in Xinjiang), so good luck with pulling off a separatist movement. But this is all talk. Put your feet in the shoes of these Uyghur jihadists. They could risk going through Afghanistan to get vaporized by the PLA or they could steal land from indigenous Syrians and set themselves up as Uyghur settlers like their Zionist masters. They're already stealing land since if they decide to squat in a Syrian's home, the Syrian can't exactly say no.

[–] KurtVonnegut@hexbear.net 26 points 4 days ago

Bay of Pigs 2: qin-shi-huangdi-fireball boogaloo.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Afghanistan is an economically devastated pariah state. China should extend a helping hand and get Afghanistan back on their feet by economically and politically helping them. And when China does help them in this way, the Taliban will know what to do when they see a bunch of Uyghur jihadists trying to make their way to Xinjiang.

[–] TheDrink@hexbear.net 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Pretty much. The best model for anti terrorism is the development of Xinjiang, full stop. Generally speaking people don't like being terrorists and would much rather live regular lives, so if you stabilize a region and give them that option they will choose it.

[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Not necessarily. Operation Cyclone was about funding and arming the conservative feudal warlords whose power derived from land holding were being threatened by the Afghan communist government’s reforms.

China could do that in Xinjiang because they already have their land reform completed from a very early stage, which abolished the extant power held by the local landlord class.

In order to replicate China’s model in Xinjiang, you need to sever the feudal relations that still exist in today’s Afghanistan. Otherwise any kind of industrialization would be difficult, because the conservative warlords who have their own fiefdoms would want to extract as much as they can from the government for land development, and this makes economic development very expensive if not downright impossible because they might not be willing to give land concession to the government.

[–] TheDrink@hexbear.net 9 points 4 days ago

Fair, it's a totally different situation, but I think that if nothing else cooperation and development remains provably the best path to stabilization and therefore reducing radicalization. Just imagine fighters coming home from fighting in Syria to find out that the rest of their family is making twice as much as they are while working half as hard, how many do you think will just want to settle down?

[–] Guamer@hexbear.net 32 points 4 days ago

Xi's comically large blender