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[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 61 points 1 week ago (1 children)

they are content creators posing as journalists

[–] OrionsMask@hexbear.net 65 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They're propagandists. Journalism and propaganda are intrinsically tied, and western journalists are responsible for poisoning the minds of entire populations.

[–] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 15 points 6 days ago

Absolutely. Did you see CNN doing the least convincing Syrian prisoner rescue ever the other day?

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (6 children)

"western journalists are responsible for poisoning the minds of entire populations." While I generally agree with you it's awfully hexbear of you to single out "western" instead of generally all.

I'm sure the "journalists" in Russia are doing just as much to poison the minds of their citizens.

Edit: Didn't even realize this is in the Hexbear community lol, I shouldn't of spoken out of turn I'm sorry. Please don't shun me

[–] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I guess you can say that while all journalists are propagandists, they are much more succesful propagandists in the west. Probably because people are far less sceptical of the news here. There's that old joke about a KGB agent and a CIA agent having a chat in a bar.

"I have to admit, I'm always so impressed by Soviet propaganda. You really know how to get people worked up," the CIA agent says.

"Thank you," the KGB says. "We do our best but truly, it's nothing compared to American propaganda. Your people believe everything your state media tells them."

The CIA agent drops his drink in shock and disgust. "Thank you friend, but you must be confused... There's no propaganda in America."

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Another good perspective that got the point across to me, thanks for sharing

[–] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No problem, thanks for being so nice despite getting snarked at by a bunch of people

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Of course, I always find talking to hexbear users interesting. I appreciate those of you who take the time to try and help me (and others) understand your perspective. The memeing and clowning on outsiders is usually pretty amusing from my point of view as well.

[–] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

That's a very nice and healthy attitude to have. I'm really happy to hear it.

The memeing and clowning comes from a relatively reasonable place too tbh. It's incredible how many people will pop into hexbear, say something they don't know anything about, get defensive when people engage like how I engage with you and then call all of us bots or cry about civility when people start treating them how they're treating people. I've seen the term "wrecker" used to describe the behaviour. I think there's been a lot of wreckers, so people are just a bit agressive when they perceive people acting in bad faith. That means well-meaning people end up catching strays, which is really sad.
I came here from another comm some time ago and I had gotten the hexbear treatment too. Took a while to realise why I'd gotten it.

[–] ryepunk@hexbear.net 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You won't be shunned. You must accept your ppb though

PIGPOOPBALLS

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

I'm not sure what ppb is but I will take the pic of possibly a pig shitting on its own balls as a sign of good luck, thank you

[–] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 2 points 6 days ago

Thank you, I was very curious

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

It's really convenient to selectively discard the idea of American Exceptionalism when it comes time to talk about the most money ever, by any civilization in history, spent on propagandizing their own people

The thing you don't incorporate into your analysis is the fact that there's one giant capitalism that exists in the world and it has centered itself in the American state. You never actually compare apple to apple, let alone acknowledge oranges.

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 6 points 6 days ago

Interesting perspective that helped me view this a bit differently, thanks for sharing

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 12 points 6 days ago

Yeah, half of Russian journalists are doing propaganda for Putin, the other half for USA and all of the for capitalism.

[–] falgscode@hexbear.net 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm sure the "journalists" in Russia are doing just as much to poison the minds of their citizens.

emphasis mine. no investigation, no right to speak. have some more ppb

horsepoo-theory

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ hexbear users are so diverse in their responses, I rate yours poorly of the ones I've recieved so far, but thanks for the double good luck

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Russian journalists are generally not manufacturing consent for imperialist warmongering like western journalists so they are not the same

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I bet this is a touchy topic in this channel but isn't that exactly what Russian journalists are doing with Ukraine?

Just like the west as well.

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The Russian war in Ukraine is anti-imperialist, they are destroying a forward NATO outpost and fascist coup government

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Ahhhhha, yes I see. I didn't realize NATO stationed their troops in popular shopping malls far from the front.

Keep up the good work spreading the truth Z Poster lol

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Who do you think backed the Nazi coup in 2014? It was the Americans, and the fascists immediately began ethnic cleansing and started a civil war by attacking their own citizens.

Russia is intervening in this civil war started by fascists and imperialists to finally end it. You have a lot to learn about this conflict

Edit: you were the user a couple weeks ago who thought Ukraine was winning and Russia was on the verge of collapse lmao. This person knows nothing about the conflict except what CNN tells them

[–] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

If we can acknowledge that the west is propagandised, then we gotta be able to question narratives like the one you just presented. I don't know the specific event you're speaking of, so I can't go into that, but I'd recommend you watch this short video to get an idea of where most hexbear users are coming from. It's not perfect, nothing ever is, but it does good at laying some groundwork. Its biggest issue is taking Bidens quote about nato expansion out of context, but I don't find that damning, since it's trying to illustrate NATO encroachment. Wether or not Biden recognised the issue with that or not isn't super relevant when the danger is clear either way. The video would have worked just as well without his quote, it just helps make it relatable to american liberals.

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'll give the video a watch when I get home from work, thanks for taking the time to share your perspective.

[–] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 1 points 5 days ago

No problem, thanks for being open minded and humble

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy: