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San Francisco traffic deaths: Pedestrians must do better, drivers say (sfstandard.com)
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Daylighting, which involves removing parked cars from around crosswalks in order to improve visibility and just wiped out about 14,000 street parking spaces, has proved especially controversial.

“If someone doesn’t die because of it, we will never know, while the living have to suffer,” Nina Geneson Otis wrote in an email to The Standard. The real estate broker said daylighting is the kind of policy that makes Democrats lose elections.

Others say the city’s actions remove responsibility from pedestrians to look out for their own safety. “A pedestrian can do anything, and be irresponsible, and no harm will come to them?” Brandi said, describing the policies as “idiot-proof.”

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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 32 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Drivers don’t stop. I’m not stupid enough to step off the curb until it’s clear you’ve seen me and are stopping

[–] kurikai@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

You might, I might, but Kids and some adults don't have the awareness. And it's not their fault they don't have the awareness either

[–] yonder@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Exactly. If I'm putting myself in front of a vehicle, I HAVE to know that it will not run me over. Especially since drivers in my area seem to be unable to stop in front of stop lines.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

So common to see the rear wheels past the stop line. I wish cops would at least give out warnings to reduce this habit. Its so normalized most don't even realize to stop before the line.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 2 points 3 weeks ago

One thing that I didn't realize, as an American, is that having traffic lights on the far side of the intersection isn't universal. If we only put them on the near side, drivers would have to stop behind the line, or else they'd be unable to see when the light turns green. Another example of better infrastructure being better than enforcement.

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

Dude so many intersections around me don't even have the stop lines, because they were either never painted in the first place, or they've faded or been paved over

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago

I like to go in front of a vehicle with the knowledge that either they will see me and stop, or I'll be ready to jump out of the way. I'm very stressed out when walking around.

[–] paysrenttobirds@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not suggesting you go blindly, but it's common practice to step off the curb -- they don't have to pay any attention to you at all until you do. My practice is to avoid eye contact until I'm really in front of them, but obviously if they aren't stopping you don't keep walking.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

More bad driving practices in the US, that became worse as people forgot how to drive over pandemic ….

  • we allow “right turn on red”, but everyone seems to have forgotten “after coming to a complete stop”. So many times they don’t even slow down, and yes I’ve almost gotten hit like that several times
  • many drivers stop across the crosswalk or ahead of the stop line. Even if people stop, they could have already run over a pedestrian. So many times I’ve had to choose whether to walk out into the intersection, or behind the car blocking my right of way.
  • then there’s the ”suicide lane”, where even though a car sees you and stops, that doesn’t mean the next lane will. What happens when you’re partway across and no one else stops?
  • and the ever more popular running a red light. Just yesterday, I slowed to an easy stop at an already red light and two cars behind me pulled around to go through.
[–] paysrenttobirds@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

I agree drivers got crazy after the pandemic. I haven't been in the bay area since then and maybe my remembered experience just doesn't exist anymore.