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I deleted Whatsapp a few years ago when I stopped working (would have been more difficult at my work). So now about 90% of my friends etc are on Telegram, and the rest have to phone or e-mail me. I see a few businesses offer some sort of Whatsapp line, but I phone or e-mail them. Just my fridge repair guy has this irritating habit of doing my card payment here and says the receipt will be sent electronically, but obviously it gets sent by Whatsapp and I don't get it. I detest that assumption that "everybody is just on Whatsapp". It's not any sort of official standard like SMS is.
Personally, I really want to see E2EE open standards coming to messengers, like we have e-mail talking to other e-mail servers.
You mean something like RCS?
RCS is more carrier based messaging and the whole stack is not built with proper E2EE as far as I know. No I'm thinking more like XMPP type open protocol, but endorsed by an international open standards body. I'm fearing that RCS is too tied to carriers just like SMS itself was.
Interesting that we already have a W3C standard for social networking but messaging itself seems to elude us..
I really think it wouldn't be that hard to make a law that messengers have to respect some minimal protocol for interoperability, like RCS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Communication_Services
If EU can force phone makers to have USB ports, it can make messangers respect RCS.
I'm not sure RCS is yet complete enough. It was really designed with replacement of SMS in mind. It also needs to work independently of any phone number and ensure full E2EE.