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Supposedly, an RS-26 was launched from Astrakhan and targeted at infrastructure in Dnipro.

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 56 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

America here.....heh. We're gonna be useless come January!

Actually we might even be working against the cause. It would not surprise me to see trumps cabinet do shitty things like sending russia weapons and money.

In fact, I'm basically expecting it.

Just know that it's not ALL America. Just like 52% of us......or, I should say 52% of the 2024 voting public.

[–] Vikthor@lemmy.world 36 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

…or, I should say 52% of the 2024 voting public.

No. I hold those who didn't vote accountable too.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (3 children)

The moment the Democrats lost the election was the one when Harris was asked what she would do differently than Biden and her answer was basically "nothing". If you ever run for president and are asked that question, just pick something at random and say "Biden does not enough for X. I would make sure that X would be a priority issue!"

This level of stupidity is not the voter's (or non-voter's) fault. Dems made their bed rock and now everyone has to lie in it.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 15 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Dude listen to yourself .

Harris was literally up against a fucking emperor wannabe who already fucked the countey in incredibly short order, backed by a batshit party openly admitting they wanted to implement project 2025.

This is not a situation where you go "hmm, well she didn't quite tickle my balls enough, so I guess i'll let the fascists win". And if you do, you are complicit. You got the chance to stand up and instead you shoved your head up your own arse

[–] astropenguin5@lemmy.world 9 points 3 hours ago

You also underestimate the stupidity of the average voter/person. Most people vote on vibes, not policy, and don't pay that much actual attention to politics.

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 19 points 4 hours ago

The non-voters tacitly agreed to let fascism happen. I totally get that people weren't happy about voting for Harris, I certainly wouldn't have been. But if I have choice between a carbuncle on my ass on the one hand, and AIDS, Ebola, testicle cancer and leprosy combined on the other hand, the choice is easy.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 29 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The mistakes of the Harris campaign are not the fault of the non-voters.

The fact that voters didn't turn out to vote against literal and clearly fucking stated fascism is the fault of the non-voters.

[–] Freefall@lemmy.world 11 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly. Nonvoters didn't vote against insane evil, that is fully on them no matter how they spin it.

[–] BombOmOm@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

'Vote for me or you are a bad person' doesn't sell, never has. Democrats had a wakeup call 8 years ago and let it pass them by. Hopefully they take it this time and strengthen the party and candidates.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 16 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Actually we might even be working against the cause.

That would mean destruction of NATO. No European country can be in a defense alliance with a country that actively support an invasion by Russia in Europe.

[–] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Trump doesn't care about the NATO. He thinks it's a big US-led charity organization that protects the weak, poor other countries who rally under the umbrella because murricah is just so superior and cool. I don't think he actively seeks to destroy it, but if his actions lead to its downfall, he would not be upset at all.

[–] nexusband@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

It wouldn't. The U.S. is a big part of NATO, but NATO will live on without the U.S. the European Union has very much the same clauses - even the U.K. would still be part of that.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 hours ago

That would mean destruction of NATO.

IIRC that's an explicit Project 2025 goal, but maybe I misremember.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Yep, he's probably ending nato. Or at least he keeps promising to do that, and there's nothing that will stop him, so.... Good luck! We'll all fucking need it!

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 13 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

If Trump continues the policies of his first term, but dial it up as many say he will. He will destroy not only NATO, but American international influence in general, because nobody can trust USA. That will do a lot of harm to American economics especially over time, USA has essentially decided the terms for international trade since WW2, helped by their many allies, ending that will be very costly for USA.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

After how we treated the Kurds, I cannot believe anyone still trusts us. We have a lot of shit in our house that needs cleaning, and we sure do seem to be shooting all the maids....

[–] coyootje@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It's not even 52%, in the end it's ended up being 50% VS 48.3%. He barely got half of all votes with the overall gap only being 2.6 million votes. That's razor thin, the only reason it worked out the way it did (apparent "easy win") is because of the electoral college system, which is a bit biased towards conservatism anyway by giving quite a bit of power to smaller, less populated states.

Besides that, I do agree that it's a bit of a question what will happen. I've seen people say that Rubio and Waltz appear to indicate a slightly different course but no one really knows besides the coming government.

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 4 points 2 hours ago