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[–] Neon@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

According to the german constitution germans are not only allowed but required to kill unelected heads of government.

Although I'm Swiss, I would do the same. Every Swiss person has to enter the Military and it's a societal contract that our militia is there to keep the democracy alive.

[–] Eiri@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A lot of authoritarian governments are/were elected though.

[–] Neon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

yeah, but the Moment they change the laws into "only we can get elected" they are a legitimate target

[–] PortugalSpaceMoon@infosec.pub 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

*Every Swiss male has to enter the military unless unable or unwilling to.

No Swiss person has to enter the military.

I'd also like to see proof of the first claim. Germany's Grundgesetz Art. 20 (4) gives the right to oppose but doesn't require it.

[–] Neon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes and no. Every Swiss male has to serve in the military. You are allowed to compensate for it instead, but there is still a Wehrpflicht, that doesn't change. Just that the compensation is Part of the Wehrpflicht.

[–] DaPorkchop_@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can also be arbitrarily deemed "unfit for service" and forced to pay a pretty expensive compensation fee for the next several years, even if you would have preferred to have done the months of military or year of civil service instead.

[–] Neon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

you can't anymore actually. There was a ruling of the Europäischer Menschenrechtsgerichtshof (I think that's how it's called?) (not the one of the EU but the one of the European Council) that that was discriminatory and they legally have to allow everyone to serve.

It was in an official document on the official website (I think of the Kanton Luzern?), so it certainly isn't a fake. I can possibly find it for you again if you want to.

Edit: can't find the official Document, but here you go: https://www.srf.ch/news/schweiz/europaeischer-gerichtshof-wehrpflichtersatz-diskriminiert-gesundheitlich-untaugliche

In the second paragraph they talk about what I just said.