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Misinformation drove these people to vote for Trump. This is going be leopard eating their faces. Sad and shows just how much fake videos and misinformation can influence our elections.

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[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

only way to fix the media is to fix the voters.

This narrative serves the capitalist class and cannot be proven. You don't "fix" voters, you create solidarity by dealing with their material conditions (engage in mutual aid).

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Solidarity is great. And I I'm all for it. But how do you have solidarity with a group of people that cannot even agree on what constitutes reality. How do you address the material conditions of people who reject addressing the material conditions if it also helps someone who isn't them.

The answer is you cannot. Not until critical thinking skills Etc are addressed. As long as people are blindly ideological of any stripe. There can't be solidarity

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How do you address the material conditions of people who reject addressing the material conditions if it also helps someone who isn’t them.

I think the sort of help you're talking about is of political policy (ie free lunches at schools). I am speaking of direct action by volunteers (ie running a community pantry). When you engage in the community, conversations happen and that is when you can challenge biases in a non-confrontational setting.

If you cannot find solidarity in the masses then what is it you're looking for? A Vanguard party to reeducate the masses?

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No not specifically. Again many of these people deny community with those they disagree with because of ideology. Though as someone pragmatically anarcho communist I do agree it is the better method. Working in communities.

The problem is how does one effectively address attacks facilitated through government? Is education reeducation? We're not talking about instilling any sort of ideology. I despise ideology generally. Vanguard parties specifically. We are talking about basic critical thinking skills. Checking and verifying sources. Not just blindly believing what others tell you.

[–] zbyte64@awful.systems -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Those of us who are terminally online should definitely checking sources, but I don't think that is practical for those working two shifts and taking care of a family.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

It absolutely is. They may be limited on what they can check. But critical thinking skills which is the main thing I'm advocating for could easily eliminate a lot of the junk. Which is more than anything what I'm advocating for. Critical thinking skills get people thinking about sources and verification and not just accepting what they're told.

[–] jaxxed@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

That is well put. Thank you for that.