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Ukraine War to End Quicker Under Trump, Zelenskiy Tells Suspilne (www.bloomberg.com)
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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy tells Suspilne media platform that under US president-elect Donald Trump the war in Ukraine will end quicker, according to Suspilne website.

Trump, who takes office in January, has said he’d seek a quick deal between Kyiv and Moscow.

Russian President Vladimir Putin and German Chancellor Olaf Scholz held a phone call earlier on Friday, the first direct communication between the leaders in almost two years and discussed the war in Ukraine.

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[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Let's not forget that Trump was the first president in history to send weapons to Ukraine. All prior presidents including Obama said it was far to provocative to do so.

[–] HumanPenguin 3 points 5 days ago

Get defs correct

Congress sent wespons to ukraine.

Trump broke the law and delayed the funding in an attempt to blackmail ukraine over US election properganda.

[–] ProtonFiber@lemmy.zip 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

TLDR: misleading information for people who won't scroll to read the rest

@freagle@lemmtgrad.ml: Let’s not forget that Trump was the first president in history to send weapons to Ukraine. All prior presidents including Obama said it was far to provocative to do so.

Weird choice of words, provocative refers to something that arouses a strong reaction, while escalating means to increase in intensity or scope.

U.S. officials were concerned that providing Javelins to Ukraine would escalate their conflict with Russia.

A bit of nitpicking that doesn't matter til fact-checking the rest of your statement.

Cotton spokesperson Patrick McCann told PolitiFact that Cotton was referring to Javelins, antiarmor missiles provided by the Trump administration. In 2014, Obama rejected a request by Ukraine for those weapons.

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However, Obama’s White House approved other aid. In total, from 2014 to 2016, the United States committed more than $600 million in security assistance to Ukraine. Under Obama, the federal government started the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative, which sent other kinds of U.S. military equipment to the country. From federal fiscal years 2016 to 2019, which overlap with Obama and Trump, Congress appropriated $850 million.

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You're misleading people, it did send weapons just not the one that was requested at the time.

Looking at his profile it all makes sense, must be a Trump supporter in hiding wandering Lemmy posts.

[–] Feline@hexbear.net 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

TLDR: misleading information about misleading information

it did send weapons just not the one that was requested at the time.

Read your own source

Cotton’s "comment is correct in the sense that Obama never approved transfer of lethal weaponry but Trump did," said Michael O’Hanlon, senior fellow in the foreign policy program of the Brookings Institution, a think tank.

What @Freagle@lemmy.zip said is correct [edit] said wrong user lol

Looking at his profile it all makes sense, must be a Trump supporter in hiding wandering Lemmy posts.

Liberal paranoia is getting out of hand. Can't wait to see what BlueAnon candidate the dems run in 2028

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 days ago

Looking at his profile it all makes sense, must be a Trump supporter in hiding wandering Lemmy posts.

Anyone to the left of me is secretly to the right of me.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 5 days ago

Your own source says Obama rejected sending weapons, but approved other non-weapon aid.

The single comment you sourced says they didn't want Ukraine's conflict with Russia to escalate.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/when-america-toes-moscows-line-214970/

Ukrainian leaders told me that the only action that Secretary of State Kerry and other American interlocutors took was to insist that the government in Kiev should do nothing to provoke Russia, in particular strongly urging Ukrainians not to use force

So your insistence that my word choice is nefarious is only reinforced by your anemic attempt at what you pretend is "research".

You're misleading people, it did send weapons just not the one that was requested at the time.

No. This is not accurate.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/26/politics/donald-trump-barack-obama-ukraine-military-aid-sheets-pillows-fact-check/index.html

Facts First: Trump is being hyperbolic here. While the Obama administration was criticized for its refusal to provide lethal assistance to Ukraine, it did provide more than $100 million in security assistance, as well as a significant amount of defense and military equipment.

Lethal aid is weapons. Armored humvees are not weapons.

The idea that you think I'm a Trump supporter after reading my comment history is hilarious and says way more about you than it does about me.