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Honestly, Lemmy is starting to really disappoint me. I figured I was leaving most of the circlejerking, reposting, and shitposting behind on Reddit. However Lemmy is every bit just as bad :-/ which is frightening considering how few people are on Lemmy. If it's getting this shitty right now, imagine it if there was a real Reddit migration...
Lemmy has the same users that Reddit has. What the fuck were you expecting?
Come to Lemmy as an alternative to reddit!
... No don't use it like reddit!?!
Sounds like you might prefer tildes.
What is that?
This. It's another link aggregator that focuses on serious discussion rather than jokes. I have invite codes if you want to try it. Too serious for my taste, but if you want to get away from the shitposting and memes you might like it.
Interesting. I'll check it out. Is it federated? It's invite only?
Not federated, but open source. And yes, invite only.
Beware Tildes is centralized and has one dictator for life similar to what Spez is to Reddit. They focus on narrow and deep discussion but no free speech, no NSFW and no video/image posts. They are extremely biased and far left-wing.
Beware Tildes is centralized and has one dictator for life similar to what Spez is to Reddit. They focus on narrow and deep discussion but no free speech, no NSFW and no video/image posts. They are extremely biased and far left-wing.
Half my comments just get downvoted for no reason. I told someone I was sorry their houses got messed up by tornados...two down votes. Like I know karma doesn't matter, but it's not fun or encouraging to see and has genuinely made me post less.
One thing I like about Lemmy is that it shows upvotes and downvotes separately in addition to the composite score.
When I make a controversial post that gets 7 upvotes and 20 downvotes, I think "Man, this was a good post. 7 people liked it". On Reddit, I would just think 13 people downvoted it. If anything, on Lemmy downvotes are just proof that I made someone I don't like mad on the Internet, which is great.
Oh? I use Liftoff and don't see that information! I think I'd like that better, too, I think all it's showing me now is the composite.
What do you use so I can check it out? Or is it the default web browser?
I use Jerboa on mobile and the native Lemmygrad UI on desktop.
Thanks, I only tried jerboa briefly after switching from Reddit but quickly stopped using it because lift off had a better theme imo, but I may just not care and prefer extra features! Suppose I could do a feature request for liftoff, too.
You could always go to an instance like beehaw that disables downvotes.
Yea but then you miss out on 99% of the fediverse. Although if that 99% is just shitposts and bullshit then maybe that is the better solution. I really do not know.
It's not quite that bad but hey, tradeoffs.
It's not that I wanna get rid of downvotes, I think down voting is a good feature. It just feels like people are more downvote happy here, even though it doesn't mean anything. It's like instead of it not meaning anything making people use it less, it actually make some people use it more specifically because it "doesn't mean anything". I'm not sure if this is just mean people being negative or just trying to get their own post more attention, but I've definitely noticed it.
If it doesn't mean anything, maybe what you could do is charge your perspective and stop caring. I get downvoted all the time and it doesn't stop me.
🤡 🥲 wait
I could also change my perspective and just delete this app and cut toxic unfriendly stuff out of my life and read more books, instead of changing my perspective just to fit in on the internet with strangers who don't and won't ever know me🤷♂️
You can't have a large, diverse community without all types. If you would like a community that only focuses on specific things, I would look for a more niche site/forum.
I mean, I'm not sure why you expected any different. This is what the internet is now; A bunch of ads, hate, and shit posting.
Some aspects of it are just as bad because they are the human aspects and will plague anything made by or for humans. Attention whoring, power hunger, confusion, people who see any gathering of people as something they can exploit, things like that will be a part of any community. Though it does seem like there's less of that here (which is why I'm ok with it not being as popular as Reddit became).
There's other things I'm not seeing nearly as much of here. There isn't the same bot presence. Troll farms don't seem to be here yet either (though it's probably only a matter of time). Admins aren't acting like powerful dictators since most of the users here just left a place because of that and will do it again. These things will all likely get worse with popularity, too.
Tildes is, I think faring well for what it's worth
Tildes is anti free speech and has a dictator for life as Deimos, it is well know they can ban you without reasons.
It will be seriously difficult finding a good instance without the shit posting and reddit-like echo chamber. I still think decentralization is the solution against the censorship machinery coming up we just need to support the right instance.
Like the stupid beans memes
I mean....most of the bullshit on Reddit wasn't due to Spez and corporate stuff. It was due to idiots reposting dumb shit and bots flooding the website at all times from all angles. I don't see how Lemmy would be immune to that unfortunately. Ad in the threat of AI and no website will be safe from ruin :-/.
It's the humans. Humans make things great and shitty. Even AIs that make things shitty will be because some asshole decided that they wanted an AI to do that.