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[–] hark@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There's no doubt that trump will be bad for the country, but he also says a lot of things like how he'd lock up hillary clinton. At this point all we can do is buckle up and hope for the best.

[–] Disgracefulone@discuss.online 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah well what worries me is how badly he took giving up power last time. The only reason he even SOMEWHAT chilled the fuck out is because he knew he had a chance in 2024 to get it back.

If he gives it up this time it's gone for good.

You don't think he's thought of nothing else this entire time? He's definitely got plans to turn this bitch into a dictatorship. "I need more generals like Hitler had."

The signs are all there.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's a possibility, but I wouldn't say it's guaranteed. Presidents enjoy an immunity that is not afforded to most others. He got impeached twice and has had a bunch of court cases against him but what has that meant? There is no chance in hell that democrats would actually pursue putting him in jail so basically he has no consequences to face. He'll carry out his second term as president, do all sorts of awful things, and then he'll leave without democrats pursuing any punishments. If george w bush can escape without being arrested as the war criminal that he is, then trump doesn't stand a chance at punishment either, so he has no reason to install a dictatorship to save himself.

Speaking of george w bush: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHVmJlMF_Lg

So yeah, I wouldn't sweat an explicit dictatorship when the rich already completely control the system. It's much easier to horde wealth while pretending we have a democracy and the pretense of legitimacy that brings than it is with an overt dictatorship. You can see this with people online making all sorts of excuses for this "democracy" of ours.

[–] Disgracefulone@discuss.online 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He doesn't want a dictatorship to save himself. He wants a dictatorship because he wants to be the fuckin dictator.

[–] hark@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He won't be allowed. I would be willing to bet on it.

[–] Disgracefulone@discuss.online 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I would normally agree. Four years ago I would have laughed if someone had said it.

Now, I just don't know. So much has happened that I thought for sure couldn't possibly happen. Not much would surprise anymore.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's a fair sentiment to have. Things certainly have been ramping up, but I don't think it would go as far as something that breaks the illusion of democracy unless there's a great depression level event and the desperation cannot be contained. It's a possibility, I just don't think it's likely at this point.

[–] Disgracefulone@discuss.online 1 points 1 week ago

I get what you're saying and I'm not saying you're wrong.

I did however giggle at your "illusion of democracy".