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The movement to swear off men: No sex. No dating. No marriage. No children. (19thnews.org)

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In the hours following former President Donald Trump’s election victory, Google searches related to 4B — a fringe South Korean feminist movement that made a name for itself in the mid to late 2010s — surged in the United States.

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No. I'm saying that there is a large group of people in this country who don't strongly believe in anything. When they see one side saying "they're eating the dogs and the cats, they want to trans your kids and that's bad" and the other side saying "you should look up why what you just said it stupid," they're going to do a 2024 election and at best not show up.

People won't change unless they want to.

You're naive. Daryl Davis was able to unracist 200 members of the KKK. Do you think telling them to "look it up" would have been sufficient? Most people are open to change, but they won't be convinced by someone that isn't willing to put in a modicum of effort past "look it up."

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not Daryl Davis. Nor could I be. Could you?

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

For one I'm not black, so no. But also you don't need to be. I provided him as proof against your idea that people will only change if they want to, and that if they want to, simply telling them to do more research is sufficient. There are options between "be a brave and charismatic black man venturing into the heart of a movement that exists to kill you," and "leave snide comments on Lemmy."

You could, for example, engage in dialogue with someone, politely rebutting the incorrect assumptions they make without demanding that they rebut their own arguments for you. You may not convince many people this way, but you will convince more people than the snide remarks guy.