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Trump winning supports the genocide of every LGBTQ+ person in all of North America, be it directly or indirectly. No one wants what is happening in Gaza. But, I have to say the potential genocide (in the sense of complete erasure of culture as well as open murders with little to no consequences sense) here is even higher.

I have the unfortunate circumstance of being a trans woman in GA. I already have had to completely shut off most contact with people, both work and personal.

I’ve already had rocks thrown at me in an attempt to kill me (this was years ago, even). I already feel like I have to carry a gun. If things go the way they seem, I will even have to order in groceries because it will further empower the people that hate my existence.

The foreign policy is shit, no question. However, I don’t like the possibility of being raped and murdered by some asshole that thinks he understands Co² emissions after watching some video.

I have a lot to say here, especially as a very blue collar machinist. I will refrain, though.

In conclusion: by “avoiding” the genocide in Gaza (which would have in my opinion had a much higher chance of being resolved with Democratic policies), you have also doomed people like me to maybe live in fear for the rest of our lives.

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[–] Seasm0ke@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Its always amazing to me.the lengths someone will go to to avoid blaming their party or candidate for a loss. The blame is not even directed to the millions of people who actively voted for the fascist, but to the political minority with the least impact on the result.

Lets face facts. The DNCs strategy to move to the right and court the mythical moderate Republican failed again. Their strategy to fund extremist Republican candidates in local races was another bet on the goodwill of the GOP voters and look they lost the Senate. They failed you.

They failed the country. They had a huge hand in creating the trump mess for their own assumed gain and yet, none of the average libs will acknowledge it. They took the votes of independents and leftists for granted and decided Liz Cheney and AIPAC would bring them victory and they failed again. Face it.

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I indeed blame voters. It's your damn civic duty

[–] Shapillon@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I don't see why it's exclusive though.

First and foremost, Republican voters are to blame.

Voters who didn't make the choice of voting for the milquetoast liberal instead of the overt fascist are to blame.

People who argued for the both sides are the same rhetoric ad nauseam are to blame. I wholeheartedly agree that both sides suck, but let's not be delusional there's obviously one that's worst.

The Democratic party which propped up the most extreme fascists while courting anything supposedly both undecided and to their right instead of all the leftist voters are to blame.

Even if it's conceptually easier to handle, in such a shitty situation there's usually a lot of blame to go around.

[–] Foofighter@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 weeks ago

Agreed, it's their civic duty, but if 2/3rds of the people think the electoral college needs to go,it's the civic duty of the politicians to represent that. The US democracy is just so terrible that just blaming the voters is the easy way out. It's the undemocratic system which year over year hasn't changed even though the consequences were predicted year over year. This is not hindsight!

[–] Seasm0ke@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Big principal Skinner energy

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hear hear.

Trump won against Harris by a margin multiple times the size of all the third party votes combined. Blaming Stein or Gaza protestors for the loss is false. Heck, this shows that Harris lost Michigan by far more than the total number of Arab-American and Muslim voters in the state. But we get blamed anyway, it’s an American tradition by this point for both parties to hate us.

[–] IzzyJ@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you think Muslim Americans are the only ones who sat out over Gaza?

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Then maybe Harris should have listened to what the majority of Americans wanted over her donors.