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[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Still waiting for an answer to a very simple question, how is voting 3rd party any different from letting the kid get run over?

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You see you're just confused. you think that the 3rd party vote represents the child being run over. it doesn't it represents the attempt to save the child. remember harris and trump are both genocidal that child is gonna get wrecked from their cars.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

lol, nice try to spin out of this. The child in the street represents Palestineans after the election. Maybe some will still die but I damn well promise you more will die with trump. What you are doing by voting third party is actually pretty much like complaining on your phone about this kid about to die, it doesn't help the kid, doesn't help anyone except for make you feel like you somehow did something even though more kids die because you couldn't be bothered to vote for the lesser of two evils.

It's selfish, silly and harms the folks whom you pretend to care about.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Spin Right round baby. Just because you're comfortable supporting a genocide doesnt mean we all are. Basically every other issue you're trying to place harris as the defender of she literally has no power to directly influence except veto powers.

Want lgbt+ rights nationally? Thats congress. What them now in your area? Thats local elections. Those issues not being resolved are due to the voters in those areas.

Funny that you want safety for those groups but not arabs. Take your nonsense else where.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you legitimately think trump will be better for the Palestinians/anyone living in the Middle East?

I'm just trying to understand how you can be so confused.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Do you legitimately think trump will be better for the Palestinians/anyone living in the Middle East?

no, I think both are equally bad for Palestinians/middle east. genocide means dead. there is no coming back from that. its happening right now. You understand this right? Harris has promised it'll continue. her own words.

I’m just trying to understand how you can be so confused.

I'm not confused. both candidates have gone on the record for genocide explicitly. the only difference is harris tells you she wants peace while handing israel the missiles.

Do you know what the definition of insanity is? doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting different results. you keep voting for genocidal nut jobs, guess what you're going to get? All I'm doing is telling you not to be fucking surprised when you get a genocide because you wouldn't stand up.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

genocide means dead. there is no coming back from that.

Holy damn, is your entire position based on you not understanding people are exaggerating?!? I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

What percentage of Palestinians do you think will be around after either presidency? (I mean, even if the PLO is undercounting by half, that's 100,000 dead Palestineans in one year. Given there are more than 5 million Palestineans, well I'd say you can do the math but I'm not sure of that, so to give you a hand, that would be 50 more years of conflict at this pace before there are no more...)

And if you are actually a parody account (please be a parody, please be a parody) goddamn, well played!

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Well I'll grant you this is a new approach from someone.... lets see how it works out for you.

So as long as its slow enough you're okay with genocide? thats your argument? well as long as they only kill 300/day we'll just let it slide. if they die from starvation, dehydration, disease, well that's definitely unrelated to our activities! I mean I guess this approach has worked.

You're also okay with israel killing journalists, WHO staff, UN staff, etc?

Good to know.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Harris would end her term with fewer dead Palestinians than trump would.

That is a good thing.

Enabling trump leads to more Palestinians dying than would die if Harris was President.

That is a bad thing.

[–] jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Agreed, hopefully she doesn't lose. But if she does the dem twits only have themselves to blame. It means there would be a 30ish pt shift to 3rd party candidates in my state for that to happen. I can only dream of Americans becoming that morally aware.

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Okay, so at least you finally agree that Harris and trump are not the same. This is progress!

Now, if you understand that trump is worse, surely you must see how not helping Harris means you are making it more likely that more Palestinians die?