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[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Perhaps I should sell some without a license.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Okay? The company will be the one to enforce their license.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I didn't agree to their license.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

But that's not criminal. That's civil. That's no different than a contract dispute. It's not government enforced, but it may be government mediated.

You could disobey a civil summons....but that's a different issue.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Civil law created and enforced by the goverment is goverment sanctioned. And FYI it is also criminal, you can go to goverment-sanctioned private prison for it.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yes. I don't know what you are arguing. I don't think you do either.

Contract violation is a civil issue, not criminal. I think you agree with that.

You cannot get imprisoned for violating a contract. I think this is what you're missing.

However if you are sued for a contract violation, you will receive a civil summons.

A civil summons is a court order. That is word of law, and wilful disregard or disobedience of a court order is literally contempt of court.

You can get arrested for that. But that's not getting arrested for a contract violation, that's getting arrested for contempt.

Do you expect contempt to not have teeth? It's literally the underpinning of all modern courts, that participants in it have respect for the truth and respect for the court. Of course the court and the government has to protect and enforce that respect.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

In case I was being unclear, it's copyright infringement that is also criminal.

And like I said, I didn't agree to the contract.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just stop. This is the same bad faith rabbit hole libertarians use to say the government is all violence, from safety codes to taxes.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fuck off, it is violence whether or not we believe it's justified.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Damn and I nearly made it the whole year without this stupid shit in my life. Oh well, there's always 2025!

May you never learn what state sponsored violence actually looks like.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

State-sponsored violence isn't just concentration camps and gulags. It includes toiling your whole life to create IP for capitalists, while they profit by simply owning it.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sure thing buddy. Just put the shovel down. You're only digging yourself in deeper.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

Oh no not my karma.

Anyhow, I hope you understand someday, no hard feelings.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lol, are you some sovereign citizen‽

The world doesn't work like that. You can't just say "No that thing isn't your! I didn't agree with it being yours."

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Indeed, that's what makes it a goverment sanctioned monopoly.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, it's government sanctioned non anarchy.

Go to Antarctica or something if you don't like society.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We've had states for a lot longer than we've had copyright and patents.

As tempting as it is to move to ~~Somalia~~ ~~Venezuela~~ Antarctica, I'd rather improve my home.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you prefer medieval times then sure.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

I didn't know we had a king. I thought we were an autonomous collective.