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Star Wars Memes

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Hello there. Somehow, Star Wars memes have returned. It's not a trap, this is where the fun begins.

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Other universes to visit:

!lotrmemes@midwest.social

!tenforward@lemmy.world

Separatist systems:

!prequelmemes@lemmy.world

Oh hey some real SW content for a change (perhaps):

!star_wars@lemmy.world

!starwars@lemmy.ml

!starwarstelevision@lemmy.world

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IMPORTANT

Please do not post the "good friend" or similar copypasta

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Our galactic citizens have requested more specific rules, so here are a few.

The general idea is, if you're looking here for rules, you're probably someone who doesn't need to have them spelled out. You're fine. But anyway:

  1. This is a community for Star Wars memes. This means typically screenshots of Star Wars media with some text or context that's meant to be funny and/or thoughtful. All SW media is welcome: movies, games, comic books, fanart... Other kinds of content, like video links or meta memes (about this community, or Lemmy), are fine as well, just keep it on topic.

  2. We are all friends here, and love (sometimes love to hate) Star Wars. Be nice to each other.

  3. As fans of fictional media, we can be passionate. If you very strongly disagree with something or someone, take a deep breath before reacting. Anger leads to the dark side!

  4. Everything in Star Wars has happened a long time ago, in a galaxy far away, and it's a rich universe of millions of words and millions of years of history. So current Earthly matters really shouldn't concern us here. In other words, leave politics, philosophies and convictions behind the door. This applies even if it's about something related to Star Wars.

  5. Original content is preferred. Reposts are fine, just please limit to a maximum of 3 per day, per citizen. It is recommended, but not required, to mark original memes as (OC) and reposts as (repost).

  6. Local mods are the Jedi council. They may take actions that are necessary to maintain peace and stability of the Republic, even beyond the rules outlined here. Follow their guidance.

  7. Regular rules of the Lemmy.world instance apply.

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[–] teft@lemmy.world 38 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

"Tons"

The galactic empire (and the republic before it) spanned billions of inhabited star systems. If each world was billions or trillions of inhabitants that means the galactic population is 10^18^ or more people. There were only ~10,000 Jedi at their peak. The chances of any galactic citizen seeing a Jedi, unless they lived on Coruscant near the temple, are vanishingly small. They were mythical beings to almost everyone.

[–] Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

TBF a 9 yr old slaveboy on an outer rim planet knew what a Jedi was.

[–] KomfortablesKissen@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, and with childlike naivety he believed those mystical heroes really exist.

An admiral of the imperial navy is above such childish myths.

[–] half_built_pyramids@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Are you saying that scene was the first time that admiral ever met or heard of Darth Vader?

[–] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

That's what the scene implies. The whole scene makes no sense after the backstory that the prequels added.

The idea of the scene is that we, the viewer, have no idea what the force is yet. Just like character who learns the hard way. Because this is the first Star Wars movie and they haven't even started calling it Episode 4 yet.

[–] oneofmany@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I consider Star Wars to be a movie that I have never seen for the "first time". I don't remember a time when I wasn't intimately familiar with every scene. I wish I could watch it now and not know what was going on.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 weeks ago

You could also say that his lackey-force-choking binge hadn't started yet, because in A New Hope he wasn't searching for Luke, and in the intro crawl for Empire it describes him as obsessed. Maybe he hadn't choked anybody till this one guy needled him and he realised he had to get the word out that he was a serious guy.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It makes much more sense when you view Jedi/Sith as the trope of the warrior monk who has achieved enlightenment. They have gained mystical powers beyond mortal ken etc, but mostly they used it to hit people with laser swords and public knowledge could dismiss a lot of that as physical training and conditioning.

[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago

Iirc one of the canon comic book series focuses on what vader was doing between III and IV and he was mostly in sith training and special jedi hunting missions for most of the time until IV and had minimal contact with the military. I still need to read it and am going off remembering the tvtropes page and a youtube video so don't quote me on anything ever from now until the end of time.

[–] KomfortablesKissen@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It's been a few years but I think Tarkin introduces Vader a few moments before the choke to the admiral (Motti is the name, BTW)

Even if he knew of Vader, knew of the force, he still didn't really believe in it. If not shown to someone it is incredibly unbelievable. He definitely didn't believe in the force being stronger than the death star, which was voiced and angered Darth Vader resulting in the choke.

Also, Motti was a pretty cool character. From the linked fandom page:

Whatever conclusions you ultimately draw about the incident taking place between myself and Lord Vader during yesterday morning's briefing, he was wrong, and trying to crush someone else's windpipe doesn't make you any less wrong, if you're wrong to begin with. Which he was. I do not concede the argument.

[–] xenoclast@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago
[–] piskertariot@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If you want to play that way, technically using a 2000lb ton, you'd only need 20-30 Jedi for there to be "Tons"

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I was looking for this kind of comment ready to make one if there was none. Thanks for absolving me of the duty.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

More than that if the Jedi are Yoda-sized. Less if they're Jabba-sized.

[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Hm, have Hutt-Jedi ever been explored in the canon or expanded universe? That sounds kinda interesting...

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I'm going off what was in the movies and other than Coruscant there's nothing to suggest there's that many individuals. There are a lot of representatives in the senate but that doesn't say much about how populated the planets are.

And, the Jedi had an actual HQ on the home planet of the republic, didn't they?

EDIT: And as another counter-example, there's not that many Secret Service agents but most people in Earth probably know they exist.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I am not familiar with star wars canon lore, but I am very familiar with astronomical data and I have a well-enough grasp of logistics. So I strongly doubt that any civilization would be able to administrate more than a few tens of thousands of star systems, no matter how efficient they are.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

The Senate chamber only holds like 2000 senators. So probably that many planets.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

billions of inhabited star systems.

Suddenly that massive Galactic Senate Chamber seems cartoonishly tiny. Was the galactic Republic just a dictatorial empire to the high hundreds of millions of worlds/systems that didn't have a senate pod from which to be heard/represented?

[–] Nouveau_Burnswick@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

I wonder if you could improve that system by creating localised star sector governments, and divesting the currently centralized power to them?

[–] kattfisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago

Maybe it's like the UN councils and the senate members are elected by the general assembly?