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yeah, and also I notice when talking about the kibbutzim that were hit, there is

1. a pretty dark and arbitrary conflation that "these were secular peace activists some of those people would drive Gazans to get healthcare" as if the same Gazans who got hospital rides were the same fighters who raided the kibbutzim, and also
2. that kibbutzim are treated like small rural collective farm communities with no strategic significance for an anti-occupation struggle, which even erasing the historical occupation context, that kibbutzim were settler-colonial projects backed by armed militias (which you shouldn't do); many kibbutzim are also often very very wealthy and even have big industrial manufacturing and high technology enterprises and large-scale privatized industrial agriculture. I think something like 40% of Israeli polity's agricultural food produce come from kibbutzim and nearly 10% of industrial output in general. And one of the kibbuttzim that was raided is the wealthiest kibbutz in the entire territory of Israel polity (I forget which one by name when I was reading up on it).

When looked at from this point of view, as an asymmetrical anti-colonial struggle compared to any other in history, this is aspect of the raid is all pretty banal and straightforward.

It's a fundamental issue, Bernie showing his ass on it either means he considers Israelis ontologically innocent, or he is deeply lazy and dishonest figure who abandons any gesture towards integrity to instead appeal to American fascism.

not just that but how many were killed by the idf themselves. got 19 year olds shooting any moving car no fucking idea who's inside. hamas's mission was so obviously to capture as many hostages alive as possible.