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[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 143 points 1 month ago (8 children)

I'm a lifelong fan of political dramas. I watched the BBC version of House of Cards and adored The Manchurian Candidate.

There's stuff going on in this election that makes everything I ever read seem placid and tame.

[–] assembly@lemmy.world 132 points 1 month ago (49 children)

Republicans would vote for the corpse of Trump before even considering not making a terrible decision. I cannot believe that this election is this close. It’s mind boggling that the outcome is currently a toss up between Nazi spray tan confused grandpa and middle road politician.

[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 56 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The point isn't to get Trump into the Whitehouse; it's to get Vance into the whitehouse.

Trump will legitimately kick the bucket within the next four years, guaranteed. And Vance will be the one to take his place. Vance will be the one who is suddenly an "incumbant" backed by the heritage foundation who is actually reasonably well spoken, able to debate, far smarter than Trump, and younger.

Vance wasn't "chosen" by Trump, he came as a part of the deal with the Heritage Foundation to get him elected.

[–] meco03211@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My hope is that after Herr Trump finally croaks there will be a power vacuum in the party. Sure if he's elected and it happens in office there will be an effort to consolidate around Vance, but you know some looked over pissant is waiting in the wings to try to take the reins. If he's not elected it will likely be much more tumultuous. Here's hoping.

[–] flying_mechanic@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Trump is a figurehead and mouth piece only, it's clear the backing and power behind him is pushing him, not the other way around. If Trump is dead or unelectable then they will sub in someone else. Trump's "saving grace" is that he was good at speaking in a relatable but obfuscating way which worked to foment the masses against imagined grievances, but that's not a trait unique to him. He is unfortunately replaceable with not much loss in momentum.

[–] drphungky@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Trump is definitely not a "figurehead only". He is a tiger that what's left of the Republican establishment has by the tail. They did not want him to win the primary again, they all hate him, and are just trying to get whatever judicial appointments and erosion of regulations they can out of him. Anyone who thinks Trump is a puppet is absolutely blind to American politics. He is an absolute wildcard that everyone is trying to react to, a whirlwind that folks hope they can push in the direction they want to destroy the things they want, but they are equally aware they can fall out of grace and be fired in two weeks like everyone in his last administration.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Trump will legitimately kick the bucket within the next four years, guaranteed.

Putin is furiously trying to figure out how to put polonium into a Big Mac

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This is nonsense. Putin and Trump are allies.

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[–] radiohead37@lemmynsfw.com 45 points 1 month ago

It’s infuriating that the election is this close. People were complaining that Biden was too old. A smart qualified candidate took his place, Trump now is having mental breakdowns in public, and somehow, the election is still a toss-up.

[–] 800XL@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

If he died tomorrow Republicans would be Black-Friday-75%-off-smart-tvs trampling each other to be the one to skin him and wear him so they could continue the coup.

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[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you wrote this election into a political drama ten years ago, it'd get rejected as not believable.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 16 points 1 month ago

True story I have told so many times....

Right after the 2016 election the NY Times assembled a panel of all the creators of the top TV political dramas. House of Cards, West Wing, Scandal, Veep...

Every creator said the same thing. If they'd had a character say that they "liked soldiers who didn't get captured" the networks and advertisers would have demanded that character be shown as hated by all Americans and voted out by the next episode.

Meanwhile you have MAGooswho also fly the black POW/MIA flag next to their Trump flag

[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Reality has the bad habit of often being unrealistic.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 24 points 1 month ago

I was against Biden stepping down because I figured there'd be a stampede of Dems fighting for the nomination.

I never dreamed they'd all line up behind the Black woman who didn't win any primaries.

Like you said, reality does what it wants and pays no attention to the script.

[–] icerunner_origin@startrek.website 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Have you read Neal Stephenson's novel, Interface?

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

lol! Yes, yes I have.

I'll see and raise you. "The Porkchoppers" and "The Fools In Town Are On Our Side," both by Ross Thomas.

Thomas was a Washington reporter turned crime novelist. The first book is about a Union election and the second is about an attempt to clean up a small Southern city by making the corruption so bad that even the pimps will vote for reform.

[–] icerunner_origin@startrek.website 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

More to add to my neverending reading list 😊

[–] WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

::: spoiler Yeah but not until he pushes Maggie Haberman in front of a subway. That will be the turning point for me. :::

[–] dulce_3t_decorum_3st@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It’s more ‘I, Claudius’ in my view

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

https://youtu.be/roI56_c_E6o

Really good breakdown of how the show used camera movement to tell the story.

Didn't think I'd enjoy it as much as I did.

Let me know what you think, okay?

[–] Odd_so_Star_so_Odd@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

FPTP-voting was created by wealthy romans to benefit wealthy romans, that anyone uses this system today is just bonkers to me and probably why this comparison of yours is not so far removed at all.

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Haven't seen any shoes coming off yet, there's still time though.

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