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[–] emmy67@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Honestly @dragonfucker@lemmy.nz below sums it up. Almost everyone from the region calls it genocide (with the exclusion of some Israelis)

Now you bring up what America did in ww2. And yeah, that actually constitutes a warcrime. But when the Japanese surrendered, that was accepted and people moved on. Here, they reached settlement and then Israel assassinated the leader they reached the ceasefire agreement with.

It's pretty clear at this point what's happening and that it needs to stop.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Almost everyone from the region

you mean the middle east? So arabs? Muslims? The exact group of people that would be vehemently opposed to literally anything slighting them in the least bit? (no shade, i mean catholocism has done about the same)

although tbf, idk much about the middle east, or it's culture, but from what i do understand, it's not the friendliest to people who don't follow expected social norms.

Here, they reached settlement and then Israel assassinated the leader they reached the ceasefire agreement with.

i mean, this specific conflict is close to 100 years old by now. While i'm sure that didn't help, and there are definitely arguments to be made about warcrimes in general. it's pretty hard to have a complete and total view of the war, and every little indiscretion possible.

So i'm not sure that

It’s pretty clear at this point

is being said in good faith here.

Like to be clear, i agree with about 90-95% of the shit you have problems with, the one bone i have to pick is whether or not this counts as genocide, and given the loaded usage of the word, i feel like it's appropriate to expect a reasonable basis of proof/evidence, or even a legal ruling on the matter in order to claim as such.

[–] emmy67@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And a reply like this is why I'd never believe you'd question it in good faith. Cause you say, i dunno about the issue or the circumstances, but it's not genocide.

You don't look, you just say you have a problem with what others say about a topic you admit you don't know about.

Go find out or listen to what others have to say

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Go find out or listen to what others have to say

i mean is this not what i'm currently and actively doing, and have been previously doing? It's not going very well lmao. Can't say i didn't try at least. Not that i'm going to continue doing it, because it doesn't seem to work lol.

[–] emmy67@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

🙄, sure. That's what you've been doing.

[–] KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

i'm not sure how much better i could be getting the perspectives and understandings of other people other than talking with them about things, and getting them to speak about them in a productive manner (circle jerking does nothing unfortunately)

so far i haven't seen many if any good propositions surrounding these sorts of things. it's been rather underwhelming to be honest.

perhaps you could guide me on this adventure.

[–] emmy67@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Nah,

That continues to be a waste of time.

Later loser