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[–] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 18 points 2 months ago (48 children)

. . . I used to teach this to high school sophomores in World History. To whom is this news?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

First of all, I assume it was news to them when they got it and now it's news to the rest of us.

Secondly, I'm guessing what you taught did not include the research and the mathematics necessary in order for them to get the hard evidence to prove the thing you taught to high school sophomores.

I'm picturing a math or a science teacher saying something like this and it makes me laugh.

[–] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well no, but what I taught to high school sophomore is--believe it or not--based on the research that academics and specialists have been doing for generations. The same is true for high school science and math teachers, by the way.

Thankfully your attempt to look sophisticated allows me to reiterate my point: this has been heavily researched, documented, and explored for several generations now. It's only news to people who have had the privilege of ignoring colonialism; many of them are in positions of authority or prestige. I'd recommend taking a look at the work of Franz Fanon or Aimee Cesaire to get a sense of how far back this line of thinking and research goes. Read that and I'll pass you some more global academic research on the topic.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, and I'm sure people who taught children that 1+1=2 thought that Newton wasted a whole lot of time getting to what every small child knows in the Principia Mathematica.

(Do you think that possibly the claim that, as a history teacher, you know what these people in an entirely different field knew before they did, so their work is pointless, is a bit silly?)

[–] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's not what Newton did with the Principia. You can read it for free online to confirm this.

I teach a course on the history of science if you're interested.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, I know that's not what he did with the Principia. I was simplifying something very complicated because it's not in my field of expertise as if I was an expert on it.

This should sound familiar to you.

[–] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Let me ask you this: why is defending the Nobel committee so important to you?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I guess the same reason acting like you're smarter than Nobel prizewinners is important to you.

(Oh wait, neither of us are doing that? Huh.)

[–] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You too.

Although next time you act like high school history teachers knew exactly for what a Nobel prize in economics was awarded for decades, I would suggest going by the academic papers that the winners wrote rather than a summary of a press release that doesn't even name any of them.

But then I don't teach high school history, so I clearly don't know my stuff when it comes to these things.

[–] MHSJenkins@infosec.pub 1 points 2 months ago

I will bear all of that in mind. Have a good one. May the Force be with you.

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