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What's an example of a hobby or social group where if you try to tell others about it to see if they want to join, it always sounds like you're trying to recruit them into a cult? (hexbear.net)
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For me, it's social dancing, specifically West Coast Swing. Because while there is just social dancing, and some who only do it, there's a bit of a culture of competition, and it has its own governing body for determining where you place in competitions, and when it does sound like a cult when described.

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[–] WertformProphetin@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

No one likes effective altruistists, least of all most academic philosophers. They're a punchline.

Not that this in any way undermines my point. It's very anti intellectual to point at one shit philosophical movement and wash one's hands of the responsibility of thinking.

[–] hypercracker@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But that’s the entire point, the account of philosophy you are espousing attempts to capture for itself the entire concept of thinking.

[–] WertformProphetin@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's... that's always been the point, yes. I mean the word itself means love of wisdom, which is quite literally thinking well.

All specialised disciplines of inquiry are downstream of and emerge out of philosophy, and any self-reflexive internal dialogue within these disciplines is inherently philosophical.

Most languages don't make the hard difference between Science and Philosophy like we do in English, and trying to sustain the difference in any absolute sense is basically impossible.

Philosophy is just radically open thought: the willingness to investigate seriously and update one's views, and, as best as possible, to keep one's ego out of what one finds.

[–] hypercracker@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago

I think that’s a very self-important account of philosophy that lends the academic practices generally associated with philosophy far, far greater relevance and weight than they should be given. Philosophers like to think of themselves as being at the base of some hierarchy of truth, beyond even mathematicians. It’s nonsense.