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A robo-taxi is private, arrives when you call it, and goes directly from where you are to where you want to be. I don't see the similarities between that and a bus or train.
A good public transit system leaves from within 5 minutes of where you live and goes to within 5 minutes of where you want to be in any town of more than like 40k people.
A good public transit system is also better for the environment, makes traffic less awful, and is generally just preferable to robotaxi bs.
The person you're responding to was not making a case for or against, just stating that a robo-taxi is not similar to a city bus.
That's technically true where I live but it would require waiting for a local bus at each end of most trips, and that's usually slower than walking.
Sure, but I cannot imagine that Elon's newest toy would solve that. It still needs to be dispatched from somewhere. Obviously, it would solve it, if you splurged on tons of robovans, much like you'd solve it, if you splurged on tons of buses.
Scheduled pick-up is already a thing on ride shares.
I don't think it is intended to replace busses for the public. My guess is that the target market is companies that offer private ride shares to their employees.
That's a robo-van, not a robo-taxi.
My impression is that the robo-van is intended to be a taxi with some ride-sharing capabilities.
So a bus, but without a set timetable, and proprietary.
That isn't what rideshareing is.
Ridesharing implies there's a driver.
So if you own this thing, you're likely sitting in it and going somewhere. And it is going to stop and pickup random people? To sit in a very tight space with you, facing each other? Like bus, but worse?
OR
Do you think you are going to buy one and other people will use it while you sit at home? In which case it's a bus to them. But worse.
OR
Do you think it's going to be owned by Tesla and you are going to pay a monthly fee so you can use their transport and share it with other people? Like a bus, just less consistent.
Tell me your dream scenario.
You really are unnecessarily aggressive and still incorrect. While USUALLY there is a driver and USUALLY the vehicle is privately owned, that does not have to be the case. I have no "dream scenario," I just pointed out that you incorrectly compared the person's comment about ridesharing and taxis to a bus, which is not at all similar.
How is it not comparable?
It's a vehicle on four wheels, on public roads.
It transports multiple people from A to B.
The people might not be acquaintances.
One is "hail and hope it arrives within reasonable time", the other has a set timetable and can carry more people more comfortably.
It is absolutely comparable, you are incorrect.
Who said anything about riding with randos? Regardless, I guess by your definition waymo is busses, lyft/uber are busses, all rideshares are busses, taxis are busses, hell, everything is busses. Why do we have all these words when we can just say busses! Lmao.
My dude, do you not know what fucking ride-sharing is?
A has a car and shares it with B.
A might not be in acquaintance with B.
There HAS to be A and B for it to have "ride-sharing capabilities".
Or else it's a self-driving van.
Lyft/ubers are illegal taxis. There's a driver and a passanger. Going from point a or b. No stops, no randos.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ridesharing_company
But sure thing, bud, you're absolutely correct!
Are trolling? You have to be trolling.
"A ridesharing company, ride-hailing service, (the vehicles are called app-taxis or e-taxis) is a company that, via websites and mobile apps, matches passengers with drivers of vehicles for hire that, unlike taxis, cannot legally be hailed from the street. "
Let me fucking chew it up for you, little peanut:
^ This is a taxi.
Okay, are you still with me? Let's hope.
Now the robo-van does not have a driver. But has "Ride-sharing capabilities" according to the original person I'm replying.
You either are sharing YOUR ride with randos, like a fucking bus, or other randos are sharing their ride with other randos, like a fucking bus.
It's not a fucking 'private pod', it has 14 seats. Otherwise it wouldn't be ride-fucking-sharing!
IF you're sitting alone in it it's just a big fucking stupid taxi.
It's a shit bus, that looks like a retro-futuristic toaster to milk money from idiot techbros.