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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Depends on.

At best you get people like Pipkin Pippa, who's actually way more progressive than your average conservative, but has the same flaws as other similar people, such as

  • not understanding "the paradox of tolerance", thus tolerating more than a few nazis in her audience, which ultimately lead her being accused being a nazi (which she seems to be angry for, both at her fans who have clipped her out of context (save for the antisemitic joke, which is a real bad look even if just meant as a joke), and the people that ran with it);
  • really likes the Tu Quoque fallacy (argument from hypocrisy), especially when it involves social issues, but at least she upholds conservatives rather than painting their hypocrisy as "humanity" instead;
  • and having her own biases that are normal for the other more conservative libertarians except she doesn't actually want to outlaw such activities.

(I really hope it'll only poorly age in a positive way)

Then you have people like Áron Ecsenyi, leader of the Hungarian Le Az Adók 75%-ával Párt (Down with the 75% of the taxes party), whose only libertarian view is whining about taxes and techbro stuff (he had an EV project that went nowhere), otherwise he is a bitter incel, really likes the censorship laws of Fidesz (especially the "child" protection law, as he likes to whine about gays in media), and his party is likely just there to test the waters for Fidesz whenever selling the healthcare to friends and family. Yeah, he also thinks the abysmally low age of consent of Hungary is somehow too high.

Then you have various actual nazis, like Richard Spencer, Hans Christian Graebener, etc., who don't even believe in free speech anymore.