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[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have and blocked nearly all of it. They have fuck-all to do with Marxism or Communism and mainly focus on Kremlin and CCP anti-west propaganda.

Can you explain what you mean by that? On what grounds do you claim they have "fuck all to do with Marxism or Communism?" How familiar are you with Marxist theory?

It's worse than the "conservative" communities, actually. It's not so much about promoting a cause as it is about telling everyone else how they are "bad". Any dissent is usually met with insults or walls of cut-n-paste posts that all point back to state media sources or fake sites.

I'd love examples, because this is blatantly false in my experience.

While all places have their own degrees of circle-jerk mentality, it can be especially bad in some corners of Lemmy.

Lemmy.world tends to be pretty bad, I agree ๐Ÿ˜œ

[โ€“] remotelove@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What my familiarity is with one ideology or another is irrelevant to this thread.

But yeah, ml/c/usa is a great example of mostly anti-west mass posting by a vocal minority. We could get into specific subjects and events that may or may not be true, but that risks detailing the point of this thread. (This may have changed over the last few months, but I doubt it.)

For generic cut-n-paste responses, all you usually need to do is mention anything about Ukraine or Chinese gost cities. Those are just two glaring examples, but I am sure there are more.

Your experience is going to be different because you likely have different views than me. That's not good or bad, it just is what it is.

No, I am not a fan of .world either. It's got its own set of issues.

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What my familiarity is with one ideology or another is irrelevant to this thread.

It's absolutely relevant, you're calling people claiming to be Marxists and Communists "fake" without demonstrating an understanding of what it is they advocate for! Of course it's relevant.

But yeah, ml/c/usa is a great example of mostly anti-west mass posting by a vocal minority. We could get into specific subjects and events that may or may not be true, but that risks detailing the point of this thread. (This may have changed over the last few months, but I doubt it.)

Communists are indeed anti-west. The West is the greatest source of Imperialism in the world, which is the greatest obstacle in the way of Socialism.

For generic cut-n-paste responses, all you usually need to do is mention anything about Ukraine or Chinese gost cities. Those are just two glaring examples, but I am sure there are more.

What do you mean, exactly? Where do these people diverge from Marxism?

Your experience is going to be different because you likely have different views than me. That's not good or bad, it just is what it is.

Evidently, I'm a Marxist-Leninist.

No, I am not a fan of .world either. It's got its own set of issues.

Was mostly a cheeky joke.

[โ€“] remotelove@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ok, this conversation is going to go nowhere. There is a clear divergence in what we both say vs what we interpret each other saying. We can probably both keep trying to explain our points, but it will just lead to an endless cycle of nonsense.

[โ€“] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

The biggest factor is

they have fuck-all to do with Marxism and Communism

Which is my biggest disagreement, what you see is the result of being Marxist and Communist. What do you expect Marxists and Communists to talk about?