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There have been at least 50 school shootings in the United States so far this year, as of September 19. Thirteen were on college campuses, and 37 were on K-12 school grounds. The incidents left 24 people dead and at least 66 other victims injured, according to CNN’s analysis of events reported by the Gun Violence Archive, Education Week and Everytown for Gun Safety.

https://www.cnn.com/us/school-shootings-fast-facts-dg/index.html

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[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That link shows "school incidents", not "school shootings":

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They're all in one link. They don't have a distinction. That's why the data is shit

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I agree it should be separated, but that doesn't make it bad data. Unless you don't know how to read tables, but that's more of an individual problem than an issue with the information provided.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's bad data because it's used as a contention point to make people think mass shootings happen ever 4 seconds or a school shooting every day. When this is completely incorrect. We get pissed at scientist who indulge in their papers, but this gets a pass?

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world -5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nope, bad data is incorrect data. This is not incorrect, we just don't like the way it's presented.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This is incorrect data. An adult who gets charged with possession of a firearm near a school, is not a school incident. That's not just badly presented, it's completely incorrect.

[–] voracitude@lemmy.world -5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

This is not incorrect data, that is the definition of a school incident. A firearm was found in or near a school. It is not a school shooting, but every school shooting begins with a school incident because it is not possible to shoot in a school without a gun near or in the school.

But this data is not being presented in its entirety as school shooting data, in any instance you've cited. Only the data for incidents which involved a shooting in a school is presented as school shooting data.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

This is not incorrect data, that is the definition of a school incident. A firearm was found in or near a school. It is not a school shooting, but every school shooting begins with a school incident because it is not possible to shoot in a school without a gun near or in the school.

A school incident involves school personnel. Do you classify a wreck that happened near a school as a school incident as well? You do know how many schools are directly in neighborhoods right?

But this data is not being presented in its entirety as school shooting data, in any instance you've cited. Only the data for incidents which involved a shooting in a school is presented as school shooting data.

No it's not, it's actively used constantly by anti2a groups. There is a reason mother jones, one of the most antigun journals out there, called out the data.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/12/no-there-were-not-355-mass-shootings-this-year/