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[–] i_am_not_a_robot 105 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Being overly fake nice because you want a tip. Tbh I'd be more inclined to tip you if you left me alone and stopped talking to me.

The whole tipping thing in USA is weird. Everyone wants a tip, it's entirely random (as a non-American) how much tip to give. Just pay your staff a wage they can actually live on ffs.

[–] TheKracken@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago

As an American I agree it's fucking weird. Tips should be for exceptional service and not an obligation.

[–] semperverus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

There's actually a loose set of rules to it. Im not sure where the specific numbers came from, but 22% of the bill as a tip is considered "excellent service", 18% or so is considered "mid" or "acceptable" service, and anything below that is a sliding scale of how bad you think they did. 0% is either you being rude and/or saying "i dont believe in tips", but giving a $0.01 tip is basically saying "fuck you, you piece of shit," (because fishing out a penny or writing it in takes more effort than opting out).

[–] cornshark@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Those numbers used to be 12, 15 and 18. They've increased, but I'm not sure why, since they're percentages. They keep up with increased food prices automatically. Not sure why tip growth has outpaced food prices.

[–] semperverus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

It may also be my region. Its always been this way for me for at least the last 15 years or so.

Now, those squarepay terminals that suggest 30% tips or similar can eat rocks.

[–] Snowcano@startrek.website 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Yeah but how do you consult those rules? How often are they updated? How do you get notified of updates?

The fact that there are no answers to these questions and therefore everyone is working with mismatching rule sets makes the whole thing useless. You can be totally well meaning and still piss off a server because somehow you don’t know what the currently acceptable magic number is.

I recently visited the states for the first time in a decade and didn’t find out until afterwards that 15% is now considered by some people to be β€œlow”. Sorry everyone who I tipped, I shafted you without realizing it. πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

[–] Poik@pawb.social 4 points 1 month ago

We don't even get this memo. I thought it was still 15, 18, and 20. And I'm wholey against mandatory tipping, but always do so because I don't want the underpaid staff to starve. I have enough friends in food service who can barely pay their rent with multiple roommates.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

Depends where you are, but I think a lot of times they're happy just to get anything.

[–] Wahots@pawb.social 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Parts of Greece apparently also do tips. Is that new? Seems like it's leeching into Europe :/