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Image is of China's ambassador to Afghanistan, Zhao Sheng, meeting Taliban Prime Minister Hasan Akhund in September 2023.

I know the Rambo title card is a hoax.

The COTW was chosen in the wake of the aborted sequel to the attempted assassination of Trump being performed by a guy who is VERY enthusiastic about Ukraine, to the point of trying to sneak Afghan soldiers into Ukraine by setting up a house in Pakistan to house them and then further transport them. He also apparently offered to send thousands of Afghan soldiers to Haiti to help them combat gang violence. Whomst among us doesn't have the numbers of thousands of Afghan soldiers on speed-dial. Do you reckon there's a group chat?

Anyway, while there is still no official recognition of the Taliban's government by any country, China has taken a different course than the late USSR and the US - forming economic in-roads, rather than trying their own invasion. This has been a big boon for the struggling country, with various mines and oil and agriculture deals helping keep things barely afloat. A total disintegration of the social fabric of Afghanistan is not in the interest of any of the powers that border it - China, Pakistan, and Iran, with Russia not too far away - so an interesting dynamic of helping-without-official-recognition has been established. I wonder who will be the first country to fully recognize them?


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[–] Zascoco@hexbear.net 35 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I have been following the situation in the sahel and it's pretty bleak. After the last terrorist attack on Bamako the capital of mali. Several fulani people were burned alive by the population with the support of the authorities and now their live stocks markets have been closed. The fulani people are a nomadic tribe like the tuareg. Seems like the terrorist are getting stronger and stronger while the ethnics tensions in the country are increasing. If you want to stop terrorism you build infrastructures and offer jobs you don't kick them out of the system. One of the other evenment of note is the trench massacre of last months where hundred were killed in Burkina faso after traore ordered the population to dig trenches and terrorists simply killed them.

[–] Al_Sham@hexbear.net 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

hundred were killed in Burkina faso after traore ordered the population to dig trenches and terrorists simply killed them

Your disdain for the people is dripping from the way you talk

[–] Boredom@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Do you always say weird insults when people report news?

[–] Al_Sham@hexbear.net 34 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Presumably, when we discuss the president of a country that is waging a war of national liberation and decolonization against US-backed contras, we would describe them with respect. The president of Burkina Faso is President Ibrahim Traore. You can't even be bothered to capitalize his name. And the way this is written reads bizarre, like he personally went to order them at gunpoint to build defensive embankments. "Kim Jong Un shot orchestra director 98 times!!"

The Sahelian nations have been massively underdeveloped and are under sanctions, "giving them jobs" is easy for you to say but it literally means nothing when the takfiri groups, receiving weapons and training from NATO and "Ukraine", are killing hundreds of people a month and specifically targetting infrastructure.

All of this leads me to my interpretation that you simply have a deep disdain for these people which is why I said it.

[–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

I appreciate our comrad's input and contributions 99% of the time, but if they are even a smidge offended, legitimately or not, they become the most sanctimonious ass I've ever seen. So no, not always, but often enough that it's weird.

[–] Al_Sham@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have said maybe a dozen times that, on this platform, we should ridicule people who slander anti-imperialist movements without citations or citing nazi media. It seems that simply pointing out correct principles doesn't stick.

Is this weird?

[–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No. But vague and venemous comments alone don't get the job done. I agree, linkless news is just gossip, Nazi news is only useful in so far as we learn what the fascists are spinning. However, your formating critiques, like capitalizing names, comes across as pedantic and ceremonial and not in a good way. People engage in information in different ways, and demanding we all show respect in a niche Internet forum where the actors being discussed will never see it is a little ridiculous.

I think your worthy point is that linkless news isn't worth the electricity it takes to type the comment. Rather than letting your indignation at tone and substantive criticism get conflated into a single line of criticism, simply stating "link or remove" and then adding to that any additional criticism would be better. At the very least someone who, presumably, shared something in good faith, could attempt to then modify it in a way that better pleased the audience. As it went at first, all you did was launch a barb that seems alienating to anyone who didn't immediately share your attitudes and make the same connection, and almost certainly the poster themselves. I think that's a shame if we want the News Thread to be more than a hobby forum for a couple dozen power posters.

[–] Boredom@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

There's also the fact that the trenches massacre thing happened awhile ago. I guess we just assume people follow the same feeds we do. "X countries leads reprisals against islamist aligned ethnic group" is a common controversy, for example it's how the west finds a way to critique wagner's successes. (And let's be clear, reprisal killings do happen which is not good in multi ethnic states.

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

How is she being a sanctimonious ass? I guess she should throw insults at people for no reason like you?

Maybe that would make her less of a "sanctimonious ass."

[–] Al_Sham@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It's okay. Maybe he is right. Sometimes I read things here and am just baffled which negatively affects my psychological state and necessarily my behavior. Such things seems to peak when events reach a crescendo. Probably better I leave then.

[–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

I don't want this to be more than it is, please don't see this as damning your entire involvement here. Sometimes touching grass is healthy and fine, don't let me stop you from doing that if that's what you need, but don't let my bristling push you out either. I think my direct response to your other comment captures more the spirit of my critique, but I assure you it's a friendly one. We all have habits or traits that sometimes rub people the wrong way, and at the end of the day part of why I've become reactive this one is just a numbers game. Like I said, I appreciate 99% of your contributions, but due to visibility by volume alone that means I see a good amount of the 1% too.

[–] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

you view the earlier post as improper protocol in a forum post. fine - then explain that instead of immediately resorting to the most bad faith explanation possible, that lack of capital letters and flippant wording means deep disdain for the concept of the people in the global south or wars of liberation. if you think something is that disrespectful and terrible but you aren't sure, consider using the report button. mods here actually care. I appreciate your contribution to these threads, but there are enough clear and obvious 'enemies of the people' without jumping at shadows.

[–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Pattern of behavior over years of reading the News Mega as far as I'm concerned. In this particular context, someone posted (linkless, shame on them) news. If she had a real problem with it's presentation or tone she could have stated clearly what that was and invited the OP to reformat it. Instead, we get unspecific accusations of "disdain for the people." Rather than critique the presentation in an informative way that let's the OP know and grow, she simply besmirches their character and assumes the wagons will circle on her side for a good ole ratio.

I know she can offer useful criticism too because she does as a response to the same comment! And good. But the venom is still present and unnecessary in my opinion. Being so quick to side swipe a comrade at minor offenses isn't a good way to go about life.

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What was she supposed to post instead? "I'm sorry x, but I find your tone harsh! Would you mind adding softer language to improve the presentation of your post?"

How would that have been better?

Her comment was about tone and language in that post, nothing of the actual news. So her comment was fine.

You said it yourself in your comment that she posts like a "sanctimonious ass" whenever she's "offended."

It's funny you talk about her venom when you just called her a sanctimonious ass for being offended.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well the top comment is bullshit anyways because the Sahel has been slowly winning territory back from Western-backed terrorists. Under Sankara's betrayer and murderer, 70% of Burkina Faso was occupied by ISIS. Now, it's closer to 40%. Mali recaptured Kidal around 2020 from those same Western-backed terrorists. There's a resurgence in terrorist attacks because the Frogs and the Burgerlanders are getting kicked out of the Sahel and the West has to reassert itself within the parts of the Sahel they still occupy.

[–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

Even just saying that is more useful than immediate belittlement and toxicity. Put this as a response to the top level comment. This thread got real stupid real fast so I'd like the next general to be posted and everyone to be more helpful and less dickish to one another.

[–] SeekTheDeletion@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

Solidarity is a two way street, and there exists a type of condescending and chauvinist poster here that shits on those who we should have solidarity with. If they cannot take it, they should not give it

[–] SeekTheDeletion@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Some people exist in cultures where respect actually matters. Westoids would not understand this

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Damn if only Ibrahim Traore, of Burkina Faso, knew the importance of employing people? Armchair generals turned into armchair politicians/anti-terror experts

[–] GlueBear@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hexbear in decline. I just go to lemmygrad for news and similar shit now, too many reddit generals and analysts.

I'm starting to think lemmygrad has a point with downvotes. You should be able to downvote comments and do the whole explanation thing (so it isn't blind down voting.)

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

I think hot takes shouldn't be the top comment. This is the news megathread, not the-hot-takes-and-unhinged-opinions-on-geopolitics megathread.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

Seems like the terrorist are getting stronger and stronger while the ethnics tensions in the country are increasing.

They are getting stronger because the West is being kicked out of the Sahel and since they no longer have Western troops stationed in those countries to "help" fight terrorism nor neocolonial comprador puppets as leaders to rule those countries on the West's behalf, the West is doubling down on supporting those terrorists in order to destabilize those countries. Why do you think the AES filed a complaint in the UN over Ukraine neonazis giving those insurgents training?