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cross-posted from: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/22423685

EDIT: For those who are too lazy to click the link, this is what it says

Hello,

Sad news for everyone. YouTube/Google has patched the latest workaround that we had in order to restore the video playback functionality.

Right now we have no other solutions/fixes. You may be able to get Invidious working on residential IP addresses (like at home) but on datacenter IP addresses Invidious won't work anymore.

If you are interested to install Invidious at home, we remind you that we have a guide for that here: https://docs.invidious.io/installation/..

This is not the death of this project. We will still try to find new solutions, but this might take time, months probably.

I have updated the public instance list in order to reflect on the working public instances: https://instances.invidious.io. Please don't abuse them since the number is really low.

Feel free to discuss this politely on Matrix or IRC.

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[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 102 points 1 day ago (55 children)

Start asking your favourite content creators to post on PeerTube.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 1 points 5 hours ago

Tilvids.com is a good start. Fx The Linux Experiment is there.

Otherwise, I host peertube.wtf.

[–] mostlikelyaperson@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

And then watch the peertube instance die. See also: https://github.com/Chocobozzz/PeerTube/issues/5783

[–] brrt@sh.itjust.works 94 points 1 day ago (10 children)

And how are they going to make a living to keep producing videos?

I’d say ask them to join Nebula.

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Nebula is cool and all, but at the end of the day, it's still a commercial platform, and those do tend to enshittify and depend a lot on externalities.

As creators grow more dependent on Nebula, Sam and the team of original Nebula creators can wield more power and change the rules.

They already dictate the kind of content that is allowed - for example, Second Thought, one of the original creators behind Nebula, was asked to leave as he doesn't agree to change public stance on Israeli-Palestinian conflict (he is pro-Palestine). This has suddenly left him without a source of revenue necessary for the production to expand, and has put him into debt.

Solution? Probably independent sponsorships that would go both on YouTube and PeerTube videos. Or a creator reward system like in Lbry/Odysee. Something that would allow to reward creators without going full commercial.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Remember when people posted on YouTube for fun? It's only when it became a viable business that the platform turned to shit.

[–] borgertwo@ani.social 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Ah yes, youtube now is just one big ad and sponsorship cesspool flooded with clickbait and misinformation and with highly privacy invasive protocol. Its a souless capitalisic corporate machine. I dont know why people would still use it. Just let youtube die.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 2 hours ago

I dont know why people would still use it.

Third-party clients, ad-block and sponsorblock are the only way I can still use it LOL

Also there simply aren't any alternatives that aren't alt-right cesspools or just awful to use...

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Same way they do on YT. Viewer contributions + sponsor spots + merch. They only miss out on ad revenue (which I concede is not insignificant).

Nebula is ok but I took 1 look at their privacy policy and passed.

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

So you want them to take a huge pay cut? To what benefit, just YoUTubE bAd?

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

To literally everyone's benefit except YouTube.

Viewer don't have to submit themselves to Google's horrific practices and policies, and creators get the freedom to post what they want without some 3rd party determining it's illegal when it's not and taking it down or giving all of their income to someone else.

I'm not telling anyone what to do, I'm just pointing out that it's not impossible.

[–] Fosheze@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

All the people I watch on youtube make the majority of their money on patreon or twitch. Youtube is way too heavy handed with demonitization and copyright strikes to be a trutsworthy income source.

[–] 96VXb9ktTjFnRi@feddit.nl 3 points 22 hours ago

Direct payment to creators seems like the most simple and efficient method.

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 28 points 1 day ago (12 children)

That depends. If they only make a living with YT ads, then it’s going to be hard.

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

About half the ads I see on YouTube are already within the videos they post. I wonder what the overall ratio is of YouTube ad revenue versus in-video ad revenue.

[–] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 13 points 1 day ago

Are you talking about sponsors? Because yes, that has nothing to do with YT ads.

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[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

They can still post on YouTube.

It might take a tiny bit of their revenue away but I doubt it would make much of a dent, especially for creators that run mostly on patreon anyway.

[–] scarabic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Paying Nebula subscriber here 🙋‍♂️

I can’t stand hearing people whine about wanting everything for free and how DARE people try to make a living so they can eat in between making videos!!!

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