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I love how Harris is starting out with every advantage a candidate could possibly have and systematically blowing it.
Trump too tbh. This election feels like both candidates are doing their damnedest to throw it for the other one because neither actually wants to be president right now lol.
Is she? These seem less like flubs than attempts to flank Trump from the right, like with her “I love fracking SOFUCKINGMUCH” but at the debate. Libs are gonna vote for her no matter what and leftists are demographically a non-factor so why wouldn’t she?
"Leftists" whatever that even means in the US (nothing basically) are a non-entity. However, every single policy that this ambiguous "leftist" would support is insanely popular.
Actual anti-imperialist (cloaked in anti-war)
Healthcare as a human right (cloaked in healthcare coverage for all- call it anything you like)
Pro abortion (cloaked in "pro choice" and "pro women")
There's a bunch more including immigration (or at least pro-immigrant), actually pro-labor, etc.
All popular stances, all leftwing if properly articulated and executed. They can't be sold as leftwing because insane Nazi country and all that. But if she ran on them, she'd be winning about ~60-80% of the national vote. Assuming the media was arm twisted into proper coverage.
Oh, and anti-genocide of course. She could just say Israel is doing genocide and as POTUS she would oversee the systematic dismantling of Israel as a nationstate... and lose like 4 votes. Because all the Nazis are already voting for orange Nazi man. The libs don't actually care. They care as much as Maddow and Van Jones tell them to care, eg "wow look at these Hamas students!" But they do not actually care about Israel. All it takes is a media narrative shift which the sitting VP/potential future POTUS can absolutely 100% force. Trump does it all the time. They have to cover what she says. She has access to the bully pulpit, although smaller ATM. She chooses right wing though. And it's actually losing her the election.
If you assume both candidates wish to win, and you must assume this otherwise the other path is pure conspiracy theory that doesn't benefit anyone, this is the better analysis. She and the democrats, her advisers specifically, are fucking incompetents. Right wing hacks. Far to the right of the general population. Which, considering America, is almost impressive...
The true believer democrats that vote will vote for her, yes, but she needs a way to increase democrat voter turnout to actually win. She might have less charisma than Clinton, and I'm not confident that "Not Trump" is going to be enough now that Trump has been out of office for 4 years.
We'll find out soon enough, but I'm doubtful that this inauthentic pandering campaigning she's doing is going to energize enough voters to win. Thanks to boomers and voter suppression and the electoral college every race is kind of the republicans' to lose by default, so they can get away with a lot more stupid shit.
The goal of the Democratic Party is to become the Republican Party, not to win elections.
Let’s put it this way: the goal is to capture Republican donors, not to capture Republican voters. Two separate things.
Oh don't get me wrong I'm not trying to say that they're actively trying to win voters and elections and that this is their best effort at that. I just don't think this little show is going to be enough to win an election this time -- accidentally or otherwise -- in spite of how bad Trump seems to be doing from the outside.
Kamala Harris is committing genocide.
you entirely misread their comment lol
I'm not even sure if they read it. I think their comment was just a reflex or something lmao
Which one is going to stop killing innocent people?
Even if Trump wanted to be a dictator, it's not like the military would let him lol