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[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So they can shut the cameras off like the sheriff did to afroman?

Its no guarantee of safety, not that you suggested as much.

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The sheriff cannot shut off my security cameras.

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Your security cameras are not bulletproof, they will shut them off

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

That would imply they can aim...

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The police aren’t gonna shoot cameras. Also, there are several. Inside, outside, good luck getting away with anything in my house.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

https://youtu.be/0bNy7XO-SCI

Have you ever been in an interaction like that with the police?

Because I've found that a lot of the time, people are somewhat more confident before they see just how disgustingly and openly corrupt these assholes can be.

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes, my camera set up is very similar to that.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Good luck getting away with anything in my house" still implies that you think that as long as you've recorded a police doing something illegal, he'll face consequences for that.

That is extremely naive.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/afroman-pushes-back-cop-lawsuit-recent-music-video/story?id=101520072

The cops actually sued Afroman, after breaking his shit and having it videod that they broke shit and stole from him.

I don't think you understand just how perverted "justice" usually is. Especially when you're trying to get consequences for law enforcement for having broken the laws themselves.

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They sued him for making a music video of the footage. I would not be making a music video. So, what are they going to sue me for?

I do understand how bad the cops are. But as long as they don’t shoot me—a different topic—they cannot get in and out of my house unnoticed. This is my only statement.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

they cannot get in and out of my house unnoticed.

This is very much not mutually exclusive with "getting away with things".

You're too optimistic about the justice system.

[–] ravhall@discuss.online -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

English must not be your first language.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

And you must be on really shaky grounds with any sort of an argument, meaning you probably have literally zero experience with the justice system. Bringing me back to how cops being able to get away with things they do in your house and you noticing them in your house aren't mutually exclusive. (In this sentence, the preposition isn't needed. But in the first one, the way it was formatted, it did call for a preposition. See example 3: "Time and Tru Midi Slip Skirt Comfort and style are definitely not mutually exclusive with this midi skirt.")

[–] ravhall@discuss.online -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

With people I might have made feel stupid? It is rare, yeah, but on occasion. Shows a lot of character when it happens, though.

[–] ravhall@discuss.online -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Perhaps they feel stupid in your presence, but I doubt that’s because you are smart.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Good, some doubt. Now apply that towards the justice system.

[–] ravhall@discuss.online -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You’ve taken the conversation and turned it into something that allows you to argue online to make yourself feel better about yourself.

I feel sorry for you, because nothing you say could ever hurt me, but you keep trying so hard.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'd say nice try, but it isn't.

I keep making the same point. You can't let go and stop replying out of like... spite, or something?

Nothing to it. I'm not trying to insult you, but guess you are me.

[–] ravhall@discuss.online -3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You can stop too 🤷‍♂️

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm not trying to change th3 subject mr "cops won't get away with anything in my house"

Now I realise it's a different country, but here's my personal experience.

https://www.hs.fi/suomi/art-2000009654524.html

In Finland. And no-one fucking believes me here. Despite having supreme court documents to show. And that's only a part of the illegal shit I got them on, as they forcibly prevented me fron filming.

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I see. It’s a language barrier, and you took the “get away with” as a serious statement of getting away with a crime when I mean it like: “people cannot get into my house without being on camera”

Problem solved.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You use "being on camera" to imply that since they're on camera, they'll face consequences for whatever they might do.

With law enforcement, that isn't nearly as probable as you think. I hope you have those feeds recording to a server that isn't located on the same premises, at the very least. Even if you have the material though, it usually doesn't mean a thing. Cops can justify pretty much anything in the US, and the justice system tends to go their way. Sure, you can show a few examples of cops actually sentenced, but for each one, there's at least a dozen cases of officers who got off scot-free or with a warning, and a hundred more who weren't even investigated.

And as to your pitiful attempts at insults with your assumption that your English is better than mine? I've more than likely used English longer than you. More than you. In addition, I speak another language on a native level and several others on a customer service level. How many do you speak?

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, you misinterpreted the statement.

Goodbye.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ah, so... what exactly is the reason that you think having video of cops makes you safe?

You're trying to avoid seeming foolish. Like when you tried to correct my English.

So... how many languages do you speak?

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I never said it made me safe, I just said I have a lot of cameras. You took my comment, added your own thoughts to it, and then attacked me to make yourself feel something inside.

If it wasn’t misinterpreted, then you’re just fabricating information because you desire an argument.

Kinda sad really.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You started this with "thats why it's important to have a lot of cameras", to which someone responded "so the cops can shut them off, like they did Afroman's?", to which you responded "cops wouldn't..."

Then I entered the conversation, because you've asserted what cops would and wouldn't do, showing just how much faith — wrongly, though — you have in the justice system.

You're just really hard trying to ad hoc what you said, but unlike in real life, what has been said is actually on record, so bullshitting your way out of this doesn't work as easily as with your mates in the pub.

Weird how you yourself commented on the "language barrier" and what you thought was an incorrect use of the English language, yet now have completely shut up about it, almost as if you're avoiding comparing your language skills to mine. Perhaps because you don't like feeling stupid?

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I’m not reading any of this goodbye

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It really is weird that you have this pathological avoidance yet obsess over replying here.

We both know you read it. We both know which of us has more language skills, and we both know what you meant at the start of the thread.

[–] ravhall@discuss.online 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Yes, that's why you can't respond with more than two words, but still have to reply, despite having to also avoid the topics of our language skills and what your comment at the start of this thread meant.