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    [–] Allero@lemmy.today 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

    Ooookay, this will get controversial.

    Proud Manjaro/Debian user!

    • Ubuntu and derivatives suck because of Canonical and their practices
    • Fedora sucks because of Red Hat
    • OpenSUSE sucks because RPM (why?!) and still SUSE (but they're the best of the three)
    • Rest is exotic and obscure

    So we end up with Arch and Debian. Debian 12 is good enough as is, and runs on a work laptop where I don't care about anything but stability. Arch is respectable and great, but requires excessive maintenance to work properly. Among its derivatives, Endeavour is just a nicer archinstall (so, why?), Garuda is cool but unstable and too gamer'y, Manjaro is a bit problematic at times but generally the safest bet when it comes to Arch. So, when it comes to my main PC doubling as a gaming rig, this is a no-brainer.

    [–] LeFantome@programming.dev 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

    What did you not like about EndeavourOS?

    [–] Allero@lemmy.today 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

    The fact that it adds too little to Arch to be seen as a separate entity. And I don't want to run mainline Arch. It requires too much maintenance to work with it properly, and every update is a bit of a gamble on what's gonna break next - unless you spend solid time reading notes to every update.

    [–] Moshpirit@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    I have been using both distros in the last 5 years and Manjaro was way more problematic to me than Arch, TBH. The Linux Experiment created a video with some of the big issues of Manjaro BTW. That said, this is no war, everyone can enjoy their favourite distro. Whatever works best for each of us.

    [–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Yeah, I am aware of some of those controversies, and they sure are unfortunate!

    However, it's really, really hard to find a well-supported distro free of controversies. Still doesn't excuse Manjaro on that front.

    I personally did not test Arch for such a long time, but what I had I certainly didn't like. Also, full barebones approach is not for me, and more of an enthusiast kind of thing. So, to each their own indeed!

    [–] Konstant@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    I didn't like that it doesn't have a graphical software manager like Manjaro

    [–] LeFantome@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    Fair enough. Of course, you know that the exact same graphical installer is also available on EOS right? It is not installed by default but it is in the repos.

    [–] Agent641@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

    this will get controversial

    In a linux community? Im shocked, shocked!

    [–] Allero@lemmy.today 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Normally when people hear Manjaro, hell breaks loose :D

    Apparently folks here are a lot more chill about it

    [–] PoolloverNathan@programming.dev 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)
    [–] Allero@lemmy.today 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

    Lol

    See Ubuntu and derivatives

    [–] mexicancartel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
    [–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

    Lol, fair, fair! :D

    But really, I just see no point for myself when there's Debian 12 already. I've always seen LMDE as a backup of sorts, so that the community would remain should Ubuntu really screw it for everyone. Or if you're Cinnamon maximalist, they have everything as polished as possible for that (but generally you can easily have Cinnamon on mainline Debian)

    I myself am KDE fanboy, though :)